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  1. TheMayor

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    #1 TheMayor, Apr 12, 2017
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    From the Corvette forum

    MEH!!!

    If this is it its amazing that they picked the worst part of the C7 to copy-- the back. The rest is like a weird variation of the C7 with some Ferrari and McLaren tossed in (hello F12!)

    Its not ugly but it certainly doesn't make me want to shout.
    Mid-Engine-C8-Corvette-Front-Low-Res.jpg
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  2. anunakki

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    Amateurish rendering. I doubt its accurate
     
  3. energy88

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    Bring back ROUND tail lights!
     
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    I've seen worse ...
     
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    You usually can't put much credibility in these 'artist's concepts'
     
  6. k wright

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    After seeing the styling on the pending C7 it was easy to spring for the C6 ZR1. I still haven't adjusted to the current cars taillights. The rest of it is perfect.
     
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  8. dwhite

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    That looks like an uglier F430. I would have real interest in a mid- engine corvette, but not if it looks anything like the picture.
     
  9. Dragster

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    I don't think it looks too bad. It needs some help in the back as it just looks like a big rectangle with no other shapes to it. The side scoops are a little derivative, but I guess there's only so much one can do with that...
     
  10. Texas Forever

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    I dunno. Looks like a vette to me,


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  11. Nativetroy

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    I expect the front to be sleeker, more 'vette appearance. Will be interesting to see how it evolves.
     
  12. rdefabri

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    That's not authentic...it won't look like that.
     
  13. anunakki

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    Looks like a vette but the rendering is so amateur that there is no way it came from a real car company.
     
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    That looks like a 599

    My source tells me it will look more like a McLaren P1
     
  16. Jo Sta7

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    God that would be amazing. Any idea when we will see it?
     
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    +1

    That is the worst design detail on the current generation car..which is otherwise very well done. Everything is wrong with the rear view IMHO. Looks like the leftovers from a stillborn Trans Am. :) Bring back round tail lights and put a pair of exhaust tips on each side where they belong...
     
  18. WILLIAM H

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    I think 18 or 19
     
  19. TheMayor

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    This is the problem with the Corvette. Since the Mako Shark concept (which was the last unique shape after the C1 and C2) its always looked like "something else". The C7 looks like the child of the C6 married with a Lambo Gallardo.

    One would hope that they would finally try something different and unique -- but I feel it will mimic other designs as usual.
     
  20. TheMayor

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    The back of the C7 is it's worst design.

    The C7 will not grow old gracefully.
     
  21. Dragster

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    I disagree with your first point; the rear half of the car is actually my favorite part, but you know, opinions and all that. I agree with your second point though. For whatever reason, I feel like the lines of the C6 will stand the test of time better than the C7.
     
  22. boxerman

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    Gm like others has a horrible history of getting it wrong.

    looking tot he positive though. The performance of the current crop of cars is already so extreme that the new mid vette deos not have to beat a 720 on paper to be more than all the car anyone could need or use.

    Hopefully they get the styling right and don't make the huge error of going all techno like the NSX.

    Light and exotic like a 720 would have me buying.
     
  23. Texas Forever

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    No kidding. Remember the 50th anniversary Vette? We're talking about celebrating 50 years of one model. Just think about how cool a brand new C1 would have been. You know, a modern car that looks like Route 66.

    I'm not holding out much hope here.
     
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    What about the wankel powered version in the early 70's that was cancelled late in the development process. I read the engine was going to be placed into an AMC Pacer under licensing as mentioned in Hemmings.
     
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    This would be nice.
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  27. italiafan

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    :eek:

    Would buy that in a "heartbeat."
     
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    I would be on line next to you.
     
  29. JBsZ06

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    I think if it's anywhere near the first sketches we have a winner. When you guys get a load of how little it costs to operate and maintain a corvette along with its blistering performance...

    You'll consider what I do which is use my corvette as my daily driver. Purchased new I have 107k miles in this car and it not only still looks brand new...it's pretty much add gasoline, change the oil and tires and enjoy driving...

    I look forward to a 500 hp rear mid engine corvette....although I personally would prefer a dual clutch....I believe some a,erican enthusiasts seem to put great value on manual transmission sports cars..i.e. Porsche and Ferrari used car prices seem to reflect this,,,
     
  30. italiafan

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    I daily drive my C7 Z06 with Z07 package and manual 7 speed...what a beast.
     
  31. boxerman

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    I have just spent the past 3 weeks in Florida. For what are typical road conditions for much of America I can't think of a better exotic/sports car than a vette. Great ac endless tq on tap and way more than enough go. Plus in z06 form when you see one of these on the road it's going to take an aventador to out exotic it style wise.

    And that's the current car.

    The mid engines vette and rumored gt4rs sound to me like the two most exciting and interesting cars comming down the pipeline. Useable on road and track, priced so you can actually drive it a lot and hard. more than plenty performance to actually use.
     
  32. dwhite

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    Funny, I'm heading to FL tomorrow for two weeks. My problem with the area I live, Vero Beach, is the roads are mostly straight lines. You don't have the nice windy roads you get in the northeast. I have toyed with an older British sports car, like an MGB or Triumph TR4A or TR6 to have a run to town, to the beach, ect. Just a cruiser during the winter months when AC is not absolutely necessary.

    If a mid engined corvette does come out it could be the best thing to happen to folks like me - people who are starting to think about life after owning and maintaining an expensive exotic. However, a Porsche Cayman sounds good also.
     
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  34. boxerman

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    Yep all those straight roads, a supercharged vette with unlimited brakes, great ac,, turn key maintanance, heell you could even go autobox.
     
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    Odds are 50/50 its ugly.

    But then I an struggling to find a really beautiful ferrari since the 458, and that appears to be an anomoly as well, you pretty much have to go back to the 456/355 before it.
     
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    550/575 didn't have a bad line to my eyes. Other than that I agree with you completely. Striking cars, yes. Beautiful, rarely.
     
  37. SBR1

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    Agree 100%
     
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    Looks are just the beginning of the concerns. When did Chevy ever produce a mid engine sports car. They're starting from scratch. No experience.
     
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    Could this be retooling for the mid engined Vette?


    Corvettes under assembly in Bowling Green, 2016. Photo by Sanford Myers, Courtesy of General Motors.

    When GM’s Bowling Green Corvette Assembly Plant geared up for the switch from the C6 Corvette to the C7 Corvette in 2012, public tours of the factory were halted for a little over one year. After June 16, 2017, Corvette plant tours (now managed by the National Corvette Museum) will once again go on hiatus, this time for approximately 18 months as the facility begins the lengthy process of integrating a completely new paint shop and constructing a fresh tour route for visitors.

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    In 2015, General Motors announced it would invest $439 million to modernize the Bowling Green Assembly Plant, home of the Chevrolet Corvette since its opening on June 1, 1981. A new paint shop is part of this most recent upgrade, and work on its construction began the same year, resulting in the occasional road closure or loss of parking at the plant, both just temporary inconveniences for visitors.

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  40. TheMayor

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    I've been to Bowling Green and walked the factory floor. There is no way they are "retooling" for the mid engine Vette at that plant.

    First, they have plenty of C7 cars to make over the next 3 years until they come out with another replacement. The assembly line is geared specifically for C7 and C7 like "numbers". They can make about 30,000 C7's a year. NO WAY a $150k+ mid engine car can be sold in those numbers. At best they can sell maybe 4000-6000 a year and then drop off after that.

    My guess is the new car won't even be built at Bowling Green. They will use a subcontractor like Ford does for the GT. The numbers are too small.

    If I were to guess why they aren't doing factory tours its because production has to slow down. They have too many cars in inventory right now -- like 200 days worth.

    I have to say, paint is the worst part of the Corvette. Mine was simply horrible. So, investing in new painting technology might finally bring the Vette's paint up to industry standards, which is a good thing.
     
  41. leead1

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    Me to. The second rendering talks to me more than the first but both cars are very good.

    My C7 Corvette was a world class drivers car car. Corvettes in my view are getting better with each model. I think All American cars have moved up.

    They have always been reliable but now handle close to the best cars on the planet.

    I just looked at and drove a 2017 Mustang R. A very impressive drivers car. The sound was to die for and it can be adjusted up or down. I am deciding if I want to buy it or not and what car to trade in?

    Best

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    Agree...I love what America is doing now with muscle/performance cars!
    I adore my C7 Z06/Z07.
    I love the new Shelby too.

    My buds and I are leaving about 10 days for an 8 day drive from SW Florida to Branson, MO, likely put on 2500 miles...did I chose yhe 458 Spider...the Speciale...the 16M..yhe F12???? Nope...Z06 all the way!😀
     
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    Buy it!

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    Here's the 1st real shot of the C8
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    Just saw this photo being circulated claiming it is very close to what the new Mid Engine Corvette Zora will look like.
    The current front engine Z06 is below for comparison.
    Based on the mule spy shots I have seen of the mid engine corvette testing, this looks to be in line with those. Spy shot of the mid engine car testing below as well.
    2019 Corvette Zora.jpg
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    The photoshopped version isn't near correct.

    Look at the distance between the door cutline and the rear axle centerline in the mule. Much longer in the disguised car. You need that extra distance to fit in the engine, the proportions of the photoshopped version are more like that of the Cayman, which has two fewer cylinders and is just that much shorter.

    Also note that the rear overhang is longer, this is necessary because the gearbox is overhanging the rear axle (as it would be in a proper mid engine car). In the photoshopped rendition the rear overhang is essentially the same as the current front engine car that has the gearbox ahead of the rear axle. Obviously the rear overhang needs to be longer for the mid engine version.. Both of these change the basic proportions of the car..

    I just don't see that the photoshopped version shown is going to even be close to reality.
     
  47. Jo Sta7

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    This car will be amazing. Imagine if it packs around 700 hp and weighs in about 3500 pounds. It will run with a Ford GT all day and cost 1/3 the price (hopefully).
     
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    My comment was going to be that the body has been extended on the mule in both directions versus the rendering. I kind of like the rear proportions on the mule, but the front profile leaves a lot to be desired and is probably totally fake.
     
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    Anyone putting any stock into any of the "renderings" is kidding themselves. I will bet my life that none of them are even close to the final car. The yellow, photoshopped car is laughable.

    As far as where it will be made, contrary to Mayor's thoughts, it will be made in Bowling Green. GM has invested over $800 MILLION in that plant in the last 18 months, including a 450,000 square foot "paint facility". I don't know much, but I'm pretty certain you don't DOUBLE the square footage of a plant for a new paint facility....

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    What ever it is, if it actually come to market after nearly fifty years of blabber and chatter I hope it looks better than the C7s which leave a lot to be desired.
     
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    Bringing back round tail lights would be a good start!
     
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