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Revealed: the new Ferrari Portofino

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  1. Flavio_C

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  2. Nospinzone

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    Looks good!
     
  3. vrsurgeon

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    Looks pretty good. A hint of mustang... but good.

    I'll buy one used for $110k... ;)
     
  4. ross

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    its ok. once again too many flips flaps inlets outlets....starting to look like a mclaren with all that. what happened to just a smooth shape??
     
  5. HotShoe

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    Nice Lexus! ;)

    It's an improvement but at the end of the day it's still replacing a a mediocre car that IMO doesn't belong in the Ferrari lineup. Would be better served as a Maserati.
     
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    Does this one still have a wet sump V8 like CA and CA-T?
     
  8. Todd308TR

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    The California just keeps getting better looking.
     
  9. TheMayor

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    Swing and a miss!
     
  10. TheMayor

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    Bingo.

    If this had a BMW badge on it we would say Chris Bangle returned.
     
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    Looks like a BMW Z4
     
  13. Texas Forever

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    Maybe we're at the beginning of a confluence of design. All the car companies will band together and design their cars together. The only difference will be badges and perhaps the grill.
     
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    The in-house design folks really went out on a limb here. They basically bolted on the F12 front bumper and did their best to make it look like a Jaguar F-type from the side. And - just in case anyone might blink and still recognize it as a California - the marketing folk have cleverly named it the Portofino, just for more confusion (which, btw would have been a great name for a cool new design, or actually the 458, whose launch video was filmed there). At ay rate, snooze.

    Lesser and lesser attractive designs, more and more horsepower. Cue the rock music for the launch video, show it surfing an ocean wave, and wait for the nouveau riche to cue up. Criticize the tifosi who own vintage cars, pontificate about how more beautiful design may bring them back into the fold, restrict their participation in events unless they sign up for Classiche, tell shareholders how great you're doing. Wonder how much buyers will have to pay for the privilege of everyone thinking they have a California.
     
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    I had a similar observation when walking through the auto show in Chicago last year. It's beyond sad and true.
     
  16. ryalex

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    I think that's pretty harsh - the California T is a sharp car that would be any other manufacturer's flagship car, not entry model!

    Actually very closed to what I was imagining, which was a Cali T shape with 812 and Lusso styling. It doesn't appear to have strayed too far from the T's overall shape and dimensions. Funny enough the thing that makes me pause about it is the electric steering, which I generally dislike in the cars I've driven with it.
     
  17. furmano

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    This is definitely an improvement over the California looks wise. That car needed to lose some LB's and if it takes a bunch of swoops and scoops to cut out the visual mass, so be it.

    As always, it probably looks better in the flesh than it does in pictures. :)

    Good call on the name change.

    -F
     
  18. energy88

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    Body proportions still suggest a "warmed-over" California to me with more gingerbread.
     
  19. rob lay

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    how does it look that different than the T, worth a name change?
     
  20. HotShoe

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    I am a little harsh, it's my old school design crits bubbling up. :) We were taught to not hold back as JM2 will testify.

    I've really tried to like the California. Even after having spent some time with one recently I still just can't embrace it. I thought it would be great to be able to take the kids with me but the back seats are completely useless for anyone over 5. My wife loves it so perhaps I'm just not the target?

    If you remove all the graphic breakups and look at solely the form surfaces it is just an oversized, generic blob.

    This is an improvement in surfacing but it still as a lazy conglomeration of cues from other cars in the lineup. Their time and energy would have been better spent IMO developing a new form language instead of just rehashing the existing ones.
     
  21. jm2

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    I'm with you on this Anthony..........nice car, yes, but 'nice' isn't enough these days.
    Nothing controversial.........and nothing really 'new', same stuff, rearranged in a different pattern.
    Opportunity lost IMO, till I see the actual car
     
  22. TheMayor

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    Everyone is copying each other now. And they seem to take the worst.

    If I imagine what this could have been vs what I see here's it's truly depressing.

    Today Beauty is in the eye of the computer
     
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    Saw it this morning on Ferrari's email and just thought...meh. Although it is still a very attractive car.
     
  25. Jacob Potts

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    Wait! The Top Gear article cited said,
    If that is indeed true, why did Ferrari go to all the time and expense to change the California? What need did Ferrari feel? "If it's not broke, why fix it", right?

    Thanks!
     

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