very early diablo are some of the quickest: Myth or Truth?

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  1. petearron

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    My wife and I got pulled over 3 times in 3 days in my 92 Diablo, doing nothing wrong, one followed us into a Walmart parking area in back where the tires are, we stop theres flashing lights on, he kept accusing it of being a replica telling stories of how someone had an exact one, then his buddy showed up eventually left after a few jokes being exchanged.

    In the Diablo you are an instant Celebrity and very popular Lol.
     
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    #102 EMILIO, Mar 12, 2017
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    this is something you do not see often
    a diablo keyring in leather, i believe one of the 2 kind of keyrings available for early cars
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    ...MASCHIN...

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    The only thing about that video that isn't horrible is the car
     
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  8. Sledge4.2

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    This little video is full of good solid advice...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2OPBRj-7yI[/ame]
     
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    I watched it. Most of it is BS though, but yeah, if stuff breaks, it's expensive, and it's mostly guys that like the car. That was about it.
     
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    Holy Cow that was hard to watch...
    I'm happy for the guy, he seems passionate for the love of his car.
     
  11. Sledge4.2

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    I was kidding :)
     
  12. EMILIO

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    #111 EMILIO, Mar 21, 2017
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    since the beginning few options were offered for the Diablo
    a Breguet automatic clock was by far the most expensive option available for the Diablo when the car came out
    easily surpassing the wing (in big demand as it was with the countach) and the 4 pieces leather special luggage
    a dark blue soft car-cover was also offered and i think some small items like keyrings ( i have found 2 types) and a card pouch as well as a small leather bag

    from my research i think 50 clocks were built but much less were put in diablos, some were delivered not mounted and few were put in LM002

    i am looking for a definitive number of clock made...but very hard to find infos on these
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  13. SimonSays

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    Emilio,

    There are also several versions of the Breguet clock. The number on the dial is different.
    If someone has any contacts in Breguet, perhaps they could find out?
     
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  15. EMILIO

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    yes! also
    not all the same

    would be GREAT! i have no idea how to contact them thoug... :(
     
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    I've seen a clock before that did not have the word "Diablo" on it, with the chassis number. That may have been the LM-002 clock option.

    So we have:

    * Different versions of Breguet movements
    * Versions with and without "Diablo" on the bezel
    * Presumed chassis number on the bezel, next to "Diablo"

    There are for sure more than 3-5 (like someone had posted on a sales ad), but how many is unclear.
     
  17. S_AGATA

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    There is a 91 diablo for sale in New York, ( not affiliated ) which is supposedly number 49 produced. The description mentions the car went out to Dubai from the factory. It doesn't have the early bumper but could it still be a "FAST" Diablo?
     
  18. EMILIO

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    could be, not sure since middle east model may be...

    first 50 or so cars is what i have been told

    early bumper is only on prototype cars and some have been converted so you cannot split the FAST ones from the bumper
     
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    I suppose they are fast because of the ignition setup...
     
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    A what did they change in comparison to the other, later 2WD 90/91 Diablos? I can not imagine they did change a great deal as they must have been very busy i just roling these cars out of the factury back then.
     
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    My understanding was that the differences where slightly more substantial. Nothing that couldn't be done to a 91/92 Diablo though.
     
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    Well, if you have a radical ignition with dominating 38 deg advance, this will result in the most power, but you'll need the very premium quality fuel. Afterwards they could be running 36 degrees, being a littly shy for the fuel quality. Maybe, it could be the very slightly different cams (due to pre-production manufacturing), higher compression, I believe, nothing too different, like higher drop gears (as in QV vs. late 25th Countach).
     
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    #122 S_AGATA, May 16, 2017
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    Thought I would move this here. Much better numbers than the famous Judement Day test.
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    What a bargain compared to its contemporary...the F40
     
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    #124 S_AGATA, May 19, 2017
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    Diablo that briefly spent some time with us
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    #125 Sledge4.2, May 19, 2017
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    Photo courtesy of you
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    Looking good!
     
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    Impressive!!

    My awesome Dad and I leaving pulling into Cars and Coffee, here in Houston:
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  30. S_AGATA

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    Great photo
     
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    #129 licodix, May 23, 2017
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    Early Diablo at its best. Fast, pure, beautiful.
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    a great image!

    perfect example of why these cars are THE bargain italian sport car today.
    if you think of values of modern rare sport cars and vintage ones, early diablos are way too cheap...i cannot understand how

    the line of early diablos is pure art, and i think is even more clear on wingless cars like this one: pure, simple , elegant yet so agressive.

    the later cars may be better built and some can be slighty faster (GT, jota...) but the early ones have the purest design (and most beautiful in the pure sense of the word imo).
     
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    Other than horrific build quality, i enjoyed my 91 Diablo for its basic simple manners,But i am pretty shore my 01 6,0 was quicker all around, seems to remember tested0.60 at 3,8 sec , both cars had stripped down exhaust,and 80 lbs muffler box removed, (still have the 01 box in my wearhouse) and yes,they are undervalued.
     
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    I don't feel they have bad build quality at all. You have to remember they are now 25 years old. Sure, everything is simple, but the materials are high end, and other that crap paint and ****ty electronics (Italians have no clue on either), everything is built like a brick.
     
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    I agree on the brick thing reg suspension ,basic frame, and to a point engine/tranny set up altough i have heard some storys reg this if driven hard,and slapped around. But door hinges,hardvare , drain in doors /trunk interior quality ,switches , rubber/weaterstripping bumper fit , and so on , is lightyears behind the 6.0 no comparo.
     
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    #134 Scaledetails, May 23, 2017
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    The Diablo looks fast even just looking at it in my garage. I love this car, to me the most beautiful car design, ever.
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    Could not agree more.
    Everybody is searching these days for "pure" driving feeling. As it used to be before the computer became your Driver.
    Strange enough boring 964 Turbo 3.6 Porsches or Ferrari 512Ms get mega money - they were no match for the Diablo in their days, neither they are now.

    Build quality is an issue with all 90s cars now, time took ist toll. But engine & drivetrain are bullet proof and those who argue have most likely never driven one; especially an early Diablo.
    Like it or not: an early RWD Diablo was and is the closest thing you could get to a Ferrari F40.
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    i drove many diablos, including SV, VT, roadster...to me the 2wd is one of the quickest
    please keep in mind the early ones (50 or so cars) are quicker than the later 2wd +
     
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    Dug out the Jul 2000 edition of Road&Track , 01 Diablo (orange) full test, they are blown away by its performance, 0-60 3,6 sec , 12 flat in the quarter, they also refered to the first (91) car wich they managed 0-60 in 4,5 anyway, its a magazine,but it does illustrate a fairly quicker 0-60 time in the latest car, wich is the same impression i had of my cars, the early car was noisier and more brutal,with a sense of loud power,But the later car just simply moved a lot quicker, i will say reg the first Diablos beeing the quickest.is a Myth.
     
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    For the most part I agree with this. While the 91 Diablo felt very raw and old school Lamborghini, the 6.0 I drove on a few occasions felt brutely fast at the time. There aren't too many cars that can keep up with a 6.0 even today.

    That being said the cars in question are the "first 50". While I have never driven one of those I have no reason to doubt the numerous tests that were published on the vehicle. Most of them put the car around 4-4.2 seconds.

    Magazines as we all know can sometimes have trouble launching these cars properly in their tests. So while not as fast as the 6.0 I still think the early Diablo was seriously quick for it's time and possibly faster than some other variants.
     
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    Depends how you define performance... Off the line the 6.0 can launch harder due to its awd, after that, the 6.0 has to deal with the weight its put on.. All those creature comforts like abs, power steering, adj suspension etc all add alot of weight. My 92 Diablo after U.S. exhaust swap weighed in at 35XX, while a 6.0 according to tests weighs in the 4000lb range.
    Additionally on the dyno, a 91 with exhaust made 416 rwhp. vs my 98 Diablo SV made 412rwhp, and a 6.0 with front shaft disconnected made 432rwhp...
     
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    My 98 SV was very fast..it was a rocket
     
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    #144 Scaledetails, May 27, 2017
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    How is this for performance. Photos taken per hour at Paris Casino Las Vegas. 700+. ;)
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    You are a brave man to park it like that...
     
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    It's actually the safest spot out in the open and not hidden downstairs, besides, the valet guys are very good to me, they keep a good eye on it. Just a few hand prints when I get it back which is to be expected with such foot traffic. I love Las Vegas ;)
     
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    Until.... A.. you walk outside and see several people sitting all over your car

    B.. A drunk decides to run across it...

    Seen both happen...
     
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    #148 Scaledetails, May 27, 2017
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    Well, that's your opinion, but Paris isn't on Freemont Street either. Keep in mind this is mostly day time or late afternoons. There are Enzos and Veyrons in that same spot every other day. We choose to enjoy our cars and we won't let drunk idiots stop us from having a good time. Happens all over the world. Monte Carlo too, I've been there and seen million dollar cars parked with that much foot traffic in front of the casino (check race tomorrow). Like I said, the valet guys take care of me, they know all my cars, plus that's what insurance is for. Life is too short to worry about stuff like that.
     
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    Very good points. Wish we all would think like you. I try.
     
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    If you take "Care" of the Valets, you should be OK. I personally never park @ a Casino/Hotel, but I am very anal about my Bull. To each his own
     

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