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  1. ShineKen

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    Suntek. Slightly less thick than Xpel (meaning slightly less protection), but significantly less orange peel. Very clear and high gloss. Can barely tell there's a clear bra, especially with a custom fit.

    Installer? Check local yelp reviews. Pre-cuts are easier to install, but they tend to stop right before the edge. If you want a custom fit (more wrap around, less seams) you'll have to check their previous work.

    I do recommend some level of a medium/light glass coat, such as Opticoat, applied before having the clear bra applied. This makes it easier to remove if it need be. Less chance of paint peeling. Ferrari paint is thin in some areas.
     
  2. ShineKen

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    +1.

    360s and 430s are challenging if you want a one piece install because our fenders is really one big piece extending from the bottom of the left fender to the bottom of the right fender. It can be done in two pieces if you don't mind a seam down the middle.

    I paid about $1100 for a custom 1 piece fender to fender and 1 piece for the hood. Suntek.
     
  3. kiryu

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    My car came with original clear bra, yellow and wrinkled. Had it removed and replaced with suntek full front end plus rockers. Had paint correction done and 4 layers ceramic coating on top to bring gloss back. I do a lot of canyons so clear bra is a must, u get as many as 4 chips a day. To folks that just drive around town u prob don't need it


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  4. koop

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    There's a way to avoid a seam down the center. They use a large piece in the middle and then place two small seams on each fender along the body line crease underneath the shields. This way the seams are all hidden. But if you can do it all one piece, even better
     
  5. 3POINT8

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    complete front and mirrors
     
  6. I'm 360 Canuck

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    Then you should do it, regardless of what others do...I personally can't be bothered with it, considering my car has 5x the mileage of yours, has already been repainted, and red doesn't show paint flaws the way your black will. If the time comes, I'll just respray or use it as an excuse to get a CS bumper ;)
     
  7. aleary360

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    I do. Front bumper/hood
     
  8. michaelo

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    Full front and mirrors on my 430. The stuff is self healing, which is cool.
     
  9. Bob in Texas

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    There's a full thread on PPF in the detailing/showroom subform. One of the detailers over there says that current applicators use a full sheet with no seams. The pattern and plotter works with 60" pieces of film.

    My 430 has expel and there are no seams.
     
  10. innerstrength1@

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    What about clear bra versus thick application of ceramic coating?
     
  11. E60 M5

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    Front nose and part of hood, side rockers
     
  12. Bob in Texas

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    Ceramic coating is like a permanent wax, sort of. it will not protect from rock chips like a PPF. Its there to protect the luster of the paint
     
  13. Speedspeed

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    yes from windshield forward on Black f430... I cant even tell its on there !!!!!
     
  14. randkin

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    I have it on my Fcar front but came with the car. The new product is much better than the stuff on the Fcar and my 997TT. I just got it on my wife's new Cayanne GTS, full front and it looks much better than older product. Also the new product repairs itself from blemishes by just putting in the sun or with a hair dryer.
     
  15. 3POINT8

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    ^ i think the products are still only good for four or five years before yellowing so you may have to replace
     
  16. Ron328

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    Yes, previous owner had it installed. If he didn't, I would have.
     
  17. MalcQV

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    I think they bloody awful. I'd rather just have the front repainted every couple of years.
     
  18. MaranelloDave

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    I have it on my scud. I take the car up in the mountains with friends so there is lots of opportunities for rock chips. Also, respray isn't really an option as the car has OEM stripes.
     
  19. Corsair66

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    I've never used it on my cars and, despite vacillating a bit on covering my 430's newly painted bumper, I've decided against it. Even the best stuff never looks quite right and I prefer the look of properly detailed paint to plastic.

    For the usual minor chips, I'll use Dr. ColorChip (great product!) - when it gets to be too much, I'll just repaint. No big deal.
     
  20. TAILWAG

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    I have a partial on mine - I bought it that way. I am personally not a fan. It dulls the paint and no matter how great the application is, it is never perfect. I have yet to see an application that looks "as good" as a good paint correction.
     
  21. koop

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    Theres a wide range of films with varying quality. Also its quite possible that the paint under your film was never corrected. If you have dull paint under the film, its always going to look dull. I had a full paint correction done on my scud and then suntek installed over the entire front end. Whole car also has a ceramic coating so every panel, including the covered areas, look glossy and deep. People are shocked when they learn there's film on the car.
     
  22. fc2

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    I have full front-end, mirrors, rocker panels etc on my 16M and my wife's S4. I didn't put a clear-bra on my Huracan because I leased it.

    It's interesting reading the comments thus far. There are a couple of super important variables you need to take account of:

    - Film Quality: This stuff is getting better and better by the year. Find a shop that invests in the latest and best quality films.
    - Installer Quality: You need to find a place that custom cuts the film for your car. Pre-cut kits are horrid. I had the dealer use one of these kits on my 430 years ago and I'll never forgive myself for doing so. The gaps and seams were so bad. Had I not sold the car for my 16M, I was going to have it removed and replaced by Premier with a custom kit.

    If you find a place that custom cuts the best and newest technology films... it's way better than getting bumpers and hoods repaired from road-rash and rock chips.
     
  23. ShineKen

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    +1

    It is important to note a full paint correction should be done before a ceramic coat or a clearbra is applied as it seals what is underneath. If you have a scratch underneath it will be there as long as the ceramic or bra is on. Good clear bras also self-heal with heat. So if there is a light scratch on the bra, it will eventually go away if in the sun long enough.
     
  24. blackbolt22

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    No. I don't like the look of it. I'll respray as needed.
     
  25. ICULUKN

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    Full front end, and mirrors.
     

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