The Restoration Starts Here: 275GTB Shortnose 07333

Huh? What? Sorry I wasn't paying attention

 

Here is a recent thread about FISPA fuel filter canisters:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=338766

 

The unpainted parts on the Dino canisters are original. I really don't know if they were painted on some other Ferrari models. I think Matthias (GermanDino) will give you the right answer soon.

 

Hi Mark: This is from a late 275 gtb 2 cam
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Mark: Happy to help. What level of originality are you going for? Do you want to please the judges or have a nice car that looks and drives well?. As you know you can get crazy with the details involving clamps, screws, finishes, ect.

 

Thanks for sharing. Looks absolutely gorgeous!

 

Thanks so much for sharing this journey and labor of love with us!! Very cool!!

 

Fantastic! Love the thread!

 

Simply because copper work hardens. Every time you brake the brake pipes flex ...

In New Zealand, for example, you are not allowed to race a car with copper brake lines for this reason, and manufacturers do not use copper for brake pipes I assume for this reason.
Pete

 

Actually I would not be worried about using copper for fuel lines ... but I'm no chemist.

As for brake lines we use some sort of steel.
Pete

 

Using copper for brake lines is ILLEAGAL here in Canada. Its to soft of a metal. No car company that I know of uses copper line..there is a reason its not used. The brake lines that are used are double rolled steel. They do not expand under hard braking and don't loose there strength after many years of service. Copper will get weak the more its put under pressure.

Copper is great to work with as you can easily bend it around corners and get a really nice fit without too much hassle.

On a car like the one you are building..I wouldn't use it. Too much of a risk down the road.

There was a fellow on here that built a P4 replica. He asked if using copper line was ok. I said to get it off the car. He didn't. On the cars maiden flight down the track..the brakes failed and he went into wall and wrote off the car.

Up to you...

 

I am almost sure the problem here was caused because the lines were not properly supported. More than a feet between fixing points or any loose end allows the line to vibrate and a copper line will then fail in minutes under hard use. Copper lines also vary a lot depending how hard the material is to begin with. From the legislator's point of view if they can't control the material, they must ban them all. Best wishes, Kare

 

I just don't understand why anybody would take the risk. We are talking about brakes here. Ferrari never used copper back in the 60's and no manufacturer does now for the reasons we have discussed.

It is dead easy to bend the correct steel pipes and it is also not impossible to correctly flare the ends.

Personally it is a no brainer decision: Copper belongs in houses and steam trains NOT cars.
Pete

 

I believe you are all missing the point that Ferrari 275's had copper-PLATED brake and fuel lines with an essentially steel-based core. A magnet will stick to the original lines. It is easy to plate steel-based lines for protection and there are some special alloy brake line materials with copper appearance.

 

Indeed do not use plain copper.

Cunifer copper nickel alloy as used by Volvo since the early 70's is DOT approved and used by many leading automotives such Porsche and Aston Martin. It doesn't rust, is easily formed/bended into shape and gives a nice soft surface to seal against caliper bodies etc.

 

For your enjoyment, please find the fiter of my car 7101 before and after restoration. I was lucky to save the original paint and signs.
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