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not posting license plates in pics is silly

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  1. rob lay

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    I find it stilly not to want your license plate posted in pictures. Do you drive around the public streets with your license plate covered all the time? Is there even a publically accessible way to get personal information from a license plate tag? I think more available is full names on event and club lists where there are public databases that list address, age, family, work, etc. Seems similar to start of ecommerce where some didn’t want to give cc online, but they did the same over the phone and letting waiter take card to back.
     
  2. johnei

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    I never understood the paranoia- maybe someone can explain the fears involved.

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  4. dm_n_stuff

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    oddly enough during the course of my time here I've had not one, but two occasions where Fchatters just showed up outside my house.

    Stalkers? Probably not.

    concerning to me? you betcha.

    I've also had them find me when I was on vacation at the beach, even more scary.

    I've had them call me at work and threaten me.

    so, yeah, call me paranoid but I'd really prefer not to have my full name here, or my car's license plate shown either.

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  5. alohamickey

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    California was the first state to make the DMV personal info private, but it almost took someone getting killed to do it. Many other states have protected privacy Laws now...

    Keep in mind that people may not be celebrires, but the car, and net worth are a target to some....

    This snippet taken off Google search...

    The stalking of celebrities has grown more prevalent in recent years.

    In 1982, actress Theresa Saldana nearly died in a knife attack by a deranged fan bent on killing her. In a 1989 case that shocked Hollywood, actress Rebecca Schaeffer was killed by a crazed fan who had obtained her address from the Department of Motor Vehicles. In 1990, a woman obsessed with late-night host David Letterman was sentenced to jail for one year for breaking into the comedian's house for the sixth time.

    Following Schaeffer's murder, the California Legislature passed a bill restricting the release of home addresses by the DMV. In 1990, the state also made stalking a crime, defining it as "maliciously following or disturbing the peace of others with the intent of making them fear death."
     
  6. rob lay

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    did they find you from the plate? I didn't say it is silly not to post your full name, I just said plate.
     
  7. rob lay

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    In Texas just 15 years ago you could ask for addresses of all people in Texas that owned a Ferrari. You haven't been able to do that since though.

    This thread is focused on the present and if any more threats of privacy with plate pic vs. the event where the pic was taken in public?
     
  8. TheMayor

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    You drive around all day with your plate exposed to thousands of people. I don't see why posting it is any different. If you go to a car show, do you cover your plate for all those enthusiasts taking pictures of it?

    If license plate information was so dangerous to expose to the public, they should outlaw plates entirely.
     
  9. Steve King

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    Kind of simple here if someone sees an up scale car they figure you have toys and sell-able goods. Just get your home address and wait until you leave and take whatever they need/want. We think it may be difficult to obtain an address unless you know a cop or insurance agent but crooks always seem to get the info easier.
     
  10. TheMayor

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    When I opened my auto repair shop in the early 80's in LA, I could buy a mailing list of every Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa, Lambo, and Fiat owner in any zip code I wanted to. And, in fact, that's how I started.

    I received a list broken down by make. Some of them were pretty funny. For example, one was Cubby Broccoli in Beverly Hills (the producer of 007 movies) and another was Lloyd Bridges in San Clemente who had a Maserati. Yes, I got their home addresses. I never thought anyone would think of it as way to do some harm but now, I can see how dangerous it could be.

    But, back then, it worked remarkably well. It was the best money I ever spent on advertising. I would say about 30% were returned as the person had already moved. I started with the Zip codes closest to our shop for particular makes and radiated out over time moving down the brand ladder.

    After the stalking incident in CA, that information became illegal. Too bad someone had to screw it up because it was good for business and I would like to think, good for owners.
     
  11. GuyIncognito

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    I worked for a dealer in Massachusetts in the late 90's (while in college) and we were able to get that same info then; and AFAIK that's how the Bentley/Lambo dealer in STL invited guests to their grand opening in the mid 00's. so I think depending on the state, and who you are, and what you're doing with that info you can still get it from the DMV.
     
  12. mwr4440

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    A sighting on the street is brief. Often too brief to get a plate number.

    An internet photo is FOREVER.


    IF I ever "showed" my car in any manner, even here, I would cover the actual plate.
     
  13. dm_n_stuff

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    I have no idea how they found me. I never asked. Can't you see that scenario?

    Me, "Get the hell out of here."

    Them, "Who, us?"

    Me, "Yes, you. OH hey, wait, how'd you find me?"

    Them, "We ran your plates."

    Nah, I told 'em to get lost, didn't take the time to grill them on how they found me.

    My phone is unlisted, I live in a quiet neighborhood. They could have followed my home, spotted my car and then come back later. After all, at the time I had probably the only Dino that was regularly out on the road in our end of the county.

    but still, better safe than sorry.

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  14. TheMayor

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    Compared to what people post about themselves on Linkiden, Facebook, and Wikipedia, I really question how one public license plate photo can make them paranoid about "who has seen it".

    Do you drive to Walmart and put paper over your plate? The chances of someone seeing your plate in public and caring about it is a million times more than anyone caring on a chat sight.

    As I said -- if plates in public were so dangerous to our safety, they would be outlawed.
     
  15. Highlow

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    The question is why does it matter? What would someone do with your plate number if they got it?
     
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    Good night! What the hell are people thinking?
    I agre better safe than sorry.



    88 MPH!!
     
  17. Mowgli

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    Try doing that in the Honda scene and see where it gets you. Ferrari's may not be such a big deal, but with out judging based on a demographic of the Honda scene, people are not to be trusted. Way too shady. This is why I have security cameras in my driveway and garage.
     
  18. dm_n_stuff

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    If interested, they'd spend ten dollars and find out where you live. It's not that hard to do.

    Once they have your home address, there's the possibility of identity theft, stalking, stealing from your home(After all, they got the info off the back of a Ferrari) or stealing your car.

    Why not be safe?

    I've asked on a couple of occasions that my wife's picture be removed from threads here. She's had a couple stalkers in the past, and I just don't want to take ANY chances, as unlikely as it might seem. You never know where you might run into someone you don't want to run into.

    She actually had a face to face with someone she put in jail 20 years ago just last year on the street in our hometown. The woman went off on her. It wasn't much fun.

    So, again, better safe than sorry.

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  19. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

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    Forgive me, Your Honor, but how dangerous does it have to be for such records to be sealed, ie, for people's individual sanctity to be respected as a matter of law? Not too long ago, the standard was you didn't get such info unless you showed cause, or the person chose to share it with you. What, exactly, is wrong with that standard?

    Whose business is it who owns which car, where someone lives, people's birthdays, age, what one's www and phone records look like, etc? It's one thing for people to give out such info voluntarily, quite another for its dissemination to be a matter of law.

    The argument for your POV is usually rooted in the notion that the Founders never stipulated a Right to Privacy; that, however, isn't entirely accurate. The reason they didn't put down such a Right on paper was because they worried that it could be used to stall police investigations and the like, ie, proper government functions. They, rightfully in my opinion at least, saw such potential intrusions as prohibited by the Right to Life, an idea that's in complete harmony with both their overall thrust and the intellectual tradition they exemplified.

    (Not bad for a cook, right?)
     
  20. Jedi

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    What does all of the above have to do with having license plates publicly viewable
    every time you drive your car? (or have them posted on a chat site)

    Ya lost me ...

    Jedi
     
  21. 4REphotographer

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    If a crook has the resources to gain all your information from your license plate, don't you think he'd have the resources to do it without it?
     
  22. Steve King

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    So I assume you believe that everyone who posts on those sites use their real name and address? Maybe some do but a lot don't. Bad enough people can find your IP address unless you use a "hide" program. The world continues to change both for the good and bad. By the way is your 911 service on your cell phone turned on or off. LOL
     
  23. TheMayor

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    How exactly does someone find a license plate and find out where you live?

    And, if it's that easy, why don't people get ripped off every day because they drive around in their fancy Mercs or Bentley's? Why don't celebs get their homes invaded from just simply putting gas in their car?

    I'm having a difficult time trying to figure out how something in plain sight everywhere is so "dangerous" if it's online.
     
  24. TheMayor

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    What purpose would people have to lie on Linkedin unless they themselves were up to no good?

    My point is that if you willing to post pics of yourself and all sorts of personal information and happenings -- and have all of that link to friends and friends you don't even know all over the world... what's the big deal in a license plate on a chat sight?

    It's nothing.
     
  25. rob lay

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    #25 rob lay, Jul 15, 2012
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    funny, I post with my real name on all forums, list my city, don't hide my license plates, have banned a couple people, and I 've never had any problems. :)
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