250 TDF vs 250 SWB

Hard choice for sure but one that i would love to make . I personally prefer the SWB, especially if it's a Competizione version. It looks more aggressive while still being very pretty. The TDF is beautiful too (I prefer the covered headlights version) but it lacks a little aggressiveness in my opinion.

Which SWB would you be looking at? Steel or alloy? Lusso or Comp car?

Andrew

 

Onno,

Were there many examples of the 250 GT Berlinetta TDF with that striking red and white paint job? If it's unique, then I too have seen that very same car in the South of England.

Please forgive the lousy camera work, it's not something I'm good at.

All the best,
Andrew.
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Steel SWB or any TdF then it ought to be the TdF. Each one will have a interesting story and most likely a level of competition. All TdFs are a major contributor to the legacy of Ferrari and with no louvers, 14 louver, 3 louver, 1 louver and Interim not that many in each iteration.

Jeff

 

Yes it does. My first car was yellow and the last 5 cars I have bought have been yellow too. I love Giallo Fly.

 

Yes, it is very beautiful. The 275 4 cam that you have is one of the greatest Ferraris ever. The Daytona looks fabulous in yellow too too though I don't like Borrani wire wheels on this model and much prefer it on Cromodora alloys.

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A New Leaf with Walter Matthau. "Carbon on the Valves." Funny film.

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Dive them both,make a decision - simples. Out of interest who are the top three dealers in the world?

 

One who has a SWB comp might be biased...although a very good one, racing it very nicely...

 

According to Timmmmmmmmmmy's report it fetched $6.71 million.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=379629

 

I think you should go and see a superb example of a Ferrari Boxer. IMO it is an important Ferrari. As lovely as the 308 and 328 are please don't put the Boxer in the same category. It is in an entirely different league. It is fantastic and one of the most beautiful cars ever made. Don't discount them because they are only a small fraction of what a TdF or SWB will cost. If you buy a TdF or SWB buy a Boxer too. Another car you could consider is a Lamborghini Miura SV.

 

I do not think anyone can argue that they are both beautiful classic cars that anyone would be more than lucky to sit in yet alone actually own. That being said, you must have a visceral gut response that one of the cars just feels right and "does it for you". Mentally masturbating over the decision and having others give you a "popular" opinion may help you to rationalize, but you should go with your initial gut instinct which you must have had when first seeing these cars. For me it is the SWB covered head lights, but ultimately for you there must be one that is feels right no matter what others have to say.
Prost

 

Yes, the Boxer is a great car (...on straights!). I had one for 6 years in the 80s. But you can not compare it in terms of value with the Miura SV. The difference between both cars is the fact that the Miura is a very important car in the automotive history while the Boxer is "only" a nice looking Ferrari mid-engine car with a 12-cyl.-engine. Nothing special....

 

Whilst I respect your opinion I do not agree that the Boxer is nothing special. To me it is a very special car and I too have experience with both the Miura SV and Boxer. I love the Miura SV, probably more than any other car. Look at the name I chose for myself on this site. However, in today's market, the cost of an SV is many times more than that of the Boxer. The Boxer is currently a steal. I do get the impression that some people only start to revere cars when they become very expensive.

I am merely suggesting that Edmond has a look at these fabulous cars. He may or may not like them.

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As the first mid-engine V12-car the Miura has much more importance in automotive history than the Boxer which was even not existing when the Miura was launched! Yes, the Boxer is very nice, great looking car and totally underrated today - but was overshadowed again by the more radical sculpture Lamborghini LP400 "Perescopia" which also was more important for its design and suspension alone! This is recognised by the market.

The Boxer does not have this legendary iconic status the Miura SV and LP400 have.

 

To me the Boxer is in the same league as the SV and LP400. Its engine is superior. As you say, it is underrated today, but that may not always be the case. Every dog has its day as they say. The Countach is the most visually stunning road car ever made, but not as beautiful as the Boxer or SV. Just the name, Berlinetta Boxer, sounds so glorious too.

A big negative for me with the Countach is the claustrophobia I feel in the car having been stuck in one once when the catches on both doors would not open. You can't get out through the side window due to the opening being only a few inches should you need to and if you roof the car there's no way out due to the uplifting doors.

 

Same problem with a 300SL Gullwing.
I had the LP400 and felt great in the car - and I drove it about 30,000 km in 2 years!
But we are talking not (!) about how someone feels in this or another car, we are not talking about the -yes- great engine of the Boxer or its great name - we discussed its position in the automotive history and in the market today. And there the car does not have the status than the Miura SV or the LP400.

 

Yes, I just wanted you to consider all options as there are many within your budget. If my budget extended to a TdF I would certainly buy one. It has an amazing presence. Looking at one makes you think its an animate object like its alive. Probably not of much importance to you is the fact that nobody will ask you if it's an alloy one, which may annoy, in the case of the SWB Berlinetta.

 

Couldn't you get out through the side window on the Gullwing though? I'm ok with the other Lamborghinis with uplifting doors because I know I could get out through the side window, but not on a Countach.

A car's questionable higher position in automotive history wouldn't be a big deciding factor in my buying decision. I'd buy what I like and prefer and how the car makes me feel.

The Gullwing is a wonderful car.

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