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  1. ragtop1

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    I think that you will regret selling all that stuff someday, Bob.
     
  2. Brian A

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    As prices rise, so will the availability of reproductions. It is unclear were the price equilibrium point will be.

    That said, I would never part with my factory tool kit (with the fancy-pants "Utema" Italian wrenches).
     
  3. rcraig

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    Does anyone know anything about the yellow screwdrivers? Or that little black thingy is?
     
  4. BigTex

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    Today, it's worth about $1500USD, I just sold a set.
    But that was to the owber of one of my previous cars, an Fchatter and so forth.

    The screwdrivers are not correct but all of the rest of it is correct for an early to "mid" 308, note the yellow jack.

    The extra fan belt (set) goes in the jack bag.
    That's a very nice tool roll holder too, one of those today on eBay for $900 EMPTY.

    So, your conundrum is to sell in our community to "someone that needs it to complete a car" or to spend the time to sell it bit by bit to the highest bidder, which would take a LOT of time...

    Hope this helps....I have seen the black tube in my stuff too, but it's not a tool kit part per se..the radio antenna has a drain line from the housing that goes out the floor of the trunk well on that side.....knocked loose it might comingle with the tool sets.

    You are missing the tube sniffers for the rear exhaust bank, but make no mistake that's a $2K set of tools in your hand there....
     
  5. BigTex

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    Depending on the water pump set up, you have 2 or 3 for the WP, alternator and A/C, then two very small ones for the air pumps....

    Early 308s drove the WP and alternator with one common belt.
     
  6. BigTex

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    trouble light sold alone is about $275USD
     
  7. BigTex

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    If you are breaking it up I would like the window crank.....

    Oh, and the glass barrell fuses in the round box, must be for a Birdman Conversion?
    The correct OEM are the Euro style open fuses....
     
  8. BigTex

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    I guess the carb tool, but the later Polytools wrenches, would tag this as a North American 1979, at the latest or thru 1980 Euro carbed set.
     
  9. ragtop1

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    I use something very similar to that black hose for inserting and removing the spark plugs. The flanged open end fits snugly on the top of the spark plug and allows you to feed it in and out of the plug hole opening, and gently turn it in and out of the threads.
    Some spark plug sockets have a rubber piece built in that holds the spark plug in place performing the same function.

    Is it the right size ?
     
  10. piezo

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    #185 piezo, Jan 20, 2016
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    It seems the current price for your particular tools would be something like below breaking down according to the owner's manual and parts catalogue:

    Complete jack kit (jack+extension rod+ratchet+plastic wheel+wheel lug wrench+belts+spare bulb holder with bulbs and fuses+pouch), $800-$1000 and $600-$800 if without bulb holder

    Emergency light (light with bulb+plastic tie+pouch), $250-$300

    Window crank, $150-$200

    Complete tool kit (4 orange translucent screwdrivers+8 wrenches+pliers+spark plug wrench+carb tool+pouch), about $2000

    For the breakdown on the tool kit, see my previous post #113 in this thread earlier.

    Never seen that black rubber tubing before in a tool kit. The yellow screwdrivers are very likely some aftermarket ones just to complete the kit.

    Another member just sold all his tools separately this month. Mostly if not all went to FChatters, see post #151 :)
     
  11. Albert-LP

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    Steven, the 2vi cars, had the Emergency window crank or not?

    Thank you very much

    Ciao
     
  12. rcraig

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    Thanks for the input guys.

    I do have the 2 belts, I set them aside a while back and forgot to get them when I shot the stuff.
    AS far as the little black rude, I didn't even know I had it until i couldn't get one of the wrenches in and it was down in the pouch slot.

    I have the fold out reflector somewhere that I should be able to find sometime in the next month or so as I pack to move.

    Tex, you know your stuff as it's a 79 #30485. not far from the end of the carb coupe run.
    And yes Birdmans fuse block was the first thing I did about ten years ago as the old one looked like it had shorted numerous times and I couldn't keep those old fuses in it. . And to Jonathan's credit I haven't had a single problem since.

    I also have all the original manual, cards, warranty info etc as well as the original window sticker
    I would probably hold onto it for sentimental reasons if it was only a couple thousand bucks.
    Saw some ridiculous prices listed in a few places while looking for other parts and knew you guys would know, but better yet tell me honestly what was going on.

    If I do break it up I'll let you guys know first. I can honestly say that without many incredibly nice and friendly guys on here I would never have been able to put the 85K I ve added to her in the last 9 or 10 years.
    I chose a profession that made my heart and soul happy , but my wallet was screaming at me constantly.

    I may be one of the few owners on here that wish the 308 hadn't taken such a quick run in prices. Just made parts and insurance a pain for me, because I refuse to let it sit in the garage and I would never sell it .
    After a particularly nasty divorce and a layoff after 28 years at one job,I was exploring my options as pretty much the car is all she didn't get.

    If you ever read about a homeless guy living in his Ferrari, you'll know it's me.:)
     
  13. piezo

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    They should have it too.
     
  14. nerofer

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    Agreed.
    Only some of the later QVs tool rolls seem to have been delivered without it.

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    #190 nerofer, Jan 21, 2016
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    I don't know the earlier type of spark plug tools (T-bar type) very well, but the later type, the one that works with the combination wrench, such as the one illustrated here, all should have the rubber ring inside the crown to catch the plug. Some didn't have it anymore today, but should it be the case, that must be said befrore a sale...

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  16. ZOOOOMZ

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    I'm trying to restore sockets for the 1975 308 Dino GT4 and a 1988.5 328, and they're very different.

    In fact, for the rubber insert in the spark plug socket, there seem to be many variations:
    type of rubber - neoprene? open cell/closed cell foam?
    color - red? black? grey?
    size - diameter of central hole? thickness of rubber insert?
    attachment - adhesive? mechanical capture? both?
    socket design - undercut / step to retain rubber insert?
    Could someone comment on the above, and how all these parameters varied over time/models?
     
  17. nerofer

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    [really my favorite thread of the year, much better than "values", etc...every day there is something new. Thanks to Piezo for having started it!]
     
  18. piezo

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    That's some difficult questions to answer! I'll try to take a look at mine when I have access.

    Certainly there are orange and dark gray/black insets and possibly fixed in place with friction and adhesive. There should be 3 steps in the crown, the outer one, then the middle one to accommodate the rubber inset and then another depression with smaller diameter to stop the inset from moving inward. Not sure about the material, they are all rubber to me. Will report later.


    I hope it will still be here 10 years later :D
     
  19. godabitibi

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    Totally agree!
     
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    #195 flashman, Jan 21, 2016
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    This really is one of the best thread's so far. Take a look at my tool kit. This is what came with my car when I picked her up from the dealer almost 35 years ago. I never really opened it up until I started reading this thread. The only thing that I can see that does not look right is the tool roll pouch. Any thoughts?
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    Thank you both, Steven and Bruno

    (you both can now come here for the blue scrap rollout party even without taking with you some nice naked young and tall girls...)

    ciao
     
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    #197 piezo, Jan 21, 2016
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    Possible one of the most pretty yellow jack kits still in existence! No rust at all it seems.

    Your 81 is an one owner car right? And that tool kit was there since new? If affirmative, you are opening up a whole new page of our tool kit discussion. No disrespect intended, but I must point it out that the tool kit does not look like what's shown in the spare parts catalogue and the tool kits in most of our cars. Can you post some pictures of the individual tools?

    Somehow the tool kit reminds me of a Porsche kit...

    EDIT: I knew that looked familiar... See your earlier response in another thread... So you pulled another kit out of nowhere?
    toolkit for 308
    I just pulled this out just to see what was in it. I probably have not looked at this in over 30 years! I think this is all that was in there origionally, unless someone took somthing out.
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=144233720
     
  23. flashman

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    Steven,
    Thank you for the reply. I did post a picture of my tool kit on a earlier thread. I took everything out and cleaned it up. The only thing I can see that doesn't look right is the tool pouch. I am looking for a original or a good reproduction, but so far have not found anything that is reasonable in price.
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    #199 flashman, Jan 21, 2016
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    I located the additional tools in a box of parts that contain the California emission control system I had removed when I moved to Arizona. You are correct, I am the original owner, and as far as I know, unless someone at the dealership changed my tool kit, that is the way it's been for the last 35 years.
     
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    #200 flashman, Jan 21, 2016
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    Steven,

    Attached is a picture of what I have in the tool pouch. I looks like I am missing 3 wrenches from what I have seen in other posts.

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