Propsed EPA regs

https://www.sema.org/news/2016/02/08/epa-seeks-to-prohibit-conversion-of-vehicles-into-racecars

I know most here will not now turn their 3x8 into a track car, but it would seem to effect any already modified car also.

Doug

 

A petition has already started about this...

https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-prevent-the-epa-from-banning-vehicle-modification?tk=aleBMZbTfH0nJnUsEFeS-qo5b7T-MV0sKPslLXwhBgI&utm_medium=email&utm_source=signature_receipt&utm_campaign=new_signature

 

I agree that it's worth signing a petition but sadly, it's a whole new environment. I suspect this amendment will be approved because most people would probably agree with it. Most people do not convert their street cars into racers and, for those who do, saying "our part of polluting is actually quite small," will not win any support from anybody.

OTOH, it is already illegal to remove the emissions equipment from on-road cars and people do it routinely. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that some folks on this site had actually removed their Cat converter/air pump and other emissions-related equipment....

 

Da.

 

I lost my catalytic converter in boating accident.

 

Yes, and it's a big expensive mess to correct for those of us in California who want to buy those cars.

Not sure why more regulation is necessary if we already have emissions testing for cars registered for use on public roads.

 

In Pa our cars can be exempt from emissions testing depending on mileage.

Not sure if that's common in all states.

 

In MA, it is illegal to modify the emissions controls but they do not test emissions of cars more than 25 years old, maybe even 20 years.

No one ever checks to see if the emissions equipment is OEM on the older cars. I am not even sure most newer techs would know what to look for.

This legislation is a bit odd.

 

I think it's more about sounding good then any actual effect. Is EPA going to have a tech at every race to see if a car that was originally sold for street use has it's emission systems installed/working?

OTOH, CURRENT emissions systems have virtually no ill effect on power. I have posted this before but John Lingenfelter posted results of cat/no cat Dyno tests on a 700+HP chevy motor and found that the Dyno could not reliably tell any difference in power output. IOW, there was no verifiable difference - he said the results were within the standard error of the Dyno.

 

Really? Maybe you should tell VW that.

 

Same thing happened to the gun I use to have.

 

They are after weekend racers and everyday drivers (can you spell Ricer?), and since they can't track every swinging dick that modified their car, whether it is for full time track use, or not, the easiest solution is to go after the manufactures who make the parts and put them out of business.

If they find one or a dozen (originally made for the)street car that has manufacturer XYZs' part on it, they put the manufacturer out of business, along with confiscating and crushing the consumers car, they don't have to check every single car on the road.

The fact that pro race teams may buy most of their stuff from the same manufacturers that sell to the general public, is of no interest to them, and that those manufacturers will probably go out of business, as 1% of their business, sold to pro racers, won't support the rest of the company, and soon even the Pros are going to be scrambling to figure out how to get parts....

Doug

 

OTOH, it is already illegal to remove the emissions equipment from on-road cars and people do it routinely. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that some folks on this site had actually removed their Cat converter/air pump and other emissions-related equipment.... [/QUOTE]

Interesting, my emission equipment disappeared after my first service when I moved to Arizona. It re-appeared in a box when I picked up the car. It really is magic when you move out of California.

 

California tests all cars 1975 and newer. (Not sure about diesels though.)

Hopefully your a/c didn't disappear in Arizona.

 

Nope, it's still working great!
Regards,
William