Selling my 2005 F430 Gated 6-speed manual transmission Challenge Wheels Have all books and papers in a folder. Serviced and detailed locally at Imola Motorsports. 11,500 miles and climbing Price $215k [Moderator Edit: was reduced to $185k] Absolutely love the car. Just wanting something different. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Sure......the 430 being the last of the manual boxes, with CERTAIN owners, would be valued "differently". Probably not as large a spread as the 599GTB. Thanks and I forgot the "GLWS"!!
Around 30% of 360s had three pedals, but most likely only 10-15% of the F430s had three pedals. No hard numbers available for the actual percentage.
Simple; manuals aren't made by Ferrari, anymore. Haven't since the 458's came out. Ferrari manuals are an especially wonderful experience in the 430's. For the purists, like me, the manuals are the ultimate expression driving skill. No DCT or PDK can equal it. You, apparently, don't share that appreciation.
People want what they can't buy any longer and now willing to pay thru the a$$ for it. Ferrari stop making manuals because there was no demand . Judging from previous cars sold he will probably get 175ish
Look at this thread in the 430 section. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/498847-430-6mt-market-price-thread.html
I've got a 19 car collection with all manual gearboxes ... I've just not seen such a delta between manual and paddles before ... I was looking for information not judgement
If you go to Hagerty's site and check on values of 360's you will find they make a notation that the 3 pedal manuals command a premium of $50k over F1. No values currently exist for the 430's so it's whatever the market will bear.
I feel for you. You just have to ignore some of the manual crowd here. They get so defensive and emotional easily. It always turns into a heated F1 and manual debate. Anyway, hope this thread doesn't get derailed any further. Good luck to the seller. Very nice car.
Wow ... Haggerty does indeed bump valuation by $50k for third petal on 2000 360 ... Interesting ... I wonder if that's persists as f1 boxes improved ... Anyway I'm a big three petal guy with 04 GT3. 97 550 and one of only 91 maserati GT coupes in country w manual box ... GLWS
They also bump it up for the 355 manual cars, odd that they put a manual 355 the majority over the limited F1 cars. Not that I expect a F1 to be more id rather have a manual myself, but 50k Crazy, as I can swap my car competely over to a manual for way less than 50k and you wouldn't know the difference.
With the 430 since only approximately 10% of production were manual transmission cars, it is often assumed that there was very little demand originally for the manual cars. There are some original owners on here that tell a different story, as they say that at the time they ordered their 430, buyers were encouraged towards the F1 transmission. Some buyers that wanted a manual car were apparently told by their dealer that they couldn't guarentee that they would get another manual slot, but that they could get an F1 car. So with the 430's in particular the manual cars were not simply built to order, and there was buyer demand for new manual cars that was not met.
Much less than a 10% rate world-wide... 13-14% in the UK but in France it was only 1%. The world-wide rate should be around 5%, maximum. Stunning car by the way GLWS
Ferrari's F1 systems were constantly improving......each version better and faster...it's strictly (for me) a skill set thing. No idea how long it would take me, to say: "oh yea, they moved it..pull this!" Maybe a month....
I'm a manual lover too. I stopped buying Ferraris when the 458 came out. Also stopped buying GT3 Porsches when they went to PDK. As an aside, Porsche may bring back the manual in the GT3 next year. But getting back to your question about the '"ask." It's possible that buyers shy away from the F1 because of the repair cost. I've seen dealers ask anywhere between $25K-$30K to replace an F1. This could be one reason why manual Ferraris demand more money on the used market?