Please explain the controversy

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It doesn't matter who won. All we want is the rules not to be broken. If it was done correctly it wouldn't be any conreversy. I have to look at the previous race incidents.

 

You already posted Max championshipship. That's all you got? You gonna need alot more to compete with Ham.

 

Nothing was broken!!!

 

We will see if this is repeated next season. If stewards do this regularly, we will have our answer.

 

I don’t get why so many here want to believe that no rules were broken. Of course they were.

This is not a slight to Redbull or Max. They tried the best they could.

The FIA/Masi/Liberty is to blame here.

I mean, if the teams were flipped on who benefitted, we would have multiple threads on here attacking every part of Hamilton character and incessant threads about how Merc are the ultimate cheats, and how everything is rigged.

It’s all a bit tiresome to be honest. So many here are delighted that Merc/Hamilton lost that people fail to see reason.

Redbull won. Good on them. Max drove brilliantly.

Now can we finally talk about the atrocious calls? The abysmal direction? The bargaining (on air!) with the team bosses?

 

I doubt we will see it. MSB is the new head of the FIA and will probably make "amendments" to rule 15.3.

 

If they don't make "amendments" to rule 15.3. Then we should see it happen again. If it doesn't we will have our answer.

 

Let's hope that's the case, because the rules, in general, are in urgent need of some tidying up.

To me, it all boils down to incident management, and the use of full course yellow and safety car.

As it is, their excessive interventions is ruining racing.

But also, there should be less possibily of interpretation left to the race director. He should be absolutely impartial.

The roles of the stewards and the enforcement of track limits should also be redrawn. There should be consistancy, and no tolerance there.

 

There is also the rule of overtaking and gaining an advantage....that needs tidying up and consistency as well.

 

This is hilarious.

The first time such a rule is actively used and now you say that if it isn't used next year, regularly, you'll have your answer.

Absolutely amazing.

 

F1 rules are like tax rules....once exploited, they make amendments to set rule. That doesn't mean the original rule was illegal at the time.

 

Why is it hilarious? Masi said he wanted to see racing and you find no fault with his actions. Masi may want to see racing again next season. Why do you say it is hilarious for him to break the SC rules again?

 

Instead, we have multiple threads on here attacking every part of Verstappen's (and his fans') character, incessant threads about how Masi is the ultimate cheat, and how everything is rigged

Reality check: No rules were broken. Masi exercised the authority given to the Race Director by the rules ... specifically: 15.3, 48.12 and 48.13.

Hamilton was given every opportunity, every gift imaginable by the stewards ... all season long. He still lost.

 

Apparently, "waiting to see what happens next year" is lots easier than just reading and comprehending the rules as written

 

Show me where Verstappen has been attacked on here? Specifically, his character?

Hamilton has handled his defeat perfectly, yet still some on here found some reason to hate. It’s all nonsense really.

And Hamilton was penalized multiple times. Did you even watch Brazil?

 

The FIA had three laps to let the lapped cars through and have a final lap of real racing. Their "sin" was that they bumbled and fumbled to make up their minds, and at the last minute they decided to let as many cars through as was necessary to let Max and Lewis race the final lap. The real game changer was that Max pitted during the safety car and Lewis didn't, and that is what made Max the race winner, and Lewis not the winner. If the crash hadn't happened, Lewis coulda woulda shoulda had his eighth title...but the crash did happen and Mercedes froze like a deer in the headlights, and Red Bull did what they had to do...and they won as a result. Racing is full of last lap victories that make a dominent race leader shake his head and wonder what happened. Just ask Massa...he lost his WDC to Lewis on a last lap surprise. Lewis and Mercedes were the dominent force the second half of this season, but they didn't get it right on the lap that mattered most...the last lap of the last race. If anyone's butt is still hurting, go buy one of those rubber donuts you put on toilet seats.

 

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Resurrecting 4 years old posts, you must be desperate .
The amount of flak directed towards Max is minimal compared to the number of hate posts against Hamilton.

I suppose #Phil~ was talking about the present discussion.

 

None of those are 4 years old. It was a 30 second search.

The question wasn't a competition which driver got more hate post, it was asking a single example of attack against Max, specifically character. It literally took 30 seconds. Not my problem that your name popped up a lot.

 

I've got a great rule for that, bring back gravel traps.

And if one driver pushes another off in to the gravel then he should get punished.

 

I don't attack Verstappen, I give my opinion.

 

Here again, I blame the FIA for that! Tarmaced run-off areas were introduced for "safety", they said.

They opened the door to wild abuse, and blured the limits of most tracks.

Now, even the riders now want a return to gravel traps as Casey Stoner (twice world champ) said in a recent interview.

 

Oh......Thanks for the links, 'made my search take less......
A) Nov.1-3, 2017
B) Oct. 8-11, 2018
C) Oct 26-30, 2017
D) Oct 26-30, 2017
The thread itself started on Aug. 12, 2014.

No.....none were 4 years old, eh? You weren't reaching, were you?

Edit: I hadn't read passed the above quoted posts.... I also see no character assassinations by william.....

 

Oh but what about safety, bla, bla, bla.