78 308s Glass?

Has anyone way way smarter then me on these cars had any knowledge of a glass 78 308? They stopped production in 77.....did any get done in 78? I seem to have one. ????

 

Curious what vin? Have you looked here? There seems to be a couple with year 1978

 

How are you determining the year of the car? That early there was no absolute year model and different countries did it different ways.

What is the serial number?

 

Sorry, I thought I dropped the link in my post. Accurate or not, it's a start. Maybe your VIN in on here?

https://308gtb.de/serial-numbers/

 

Vin 24471

 

No it's not in that group.

 

compare your vin to others here:

Why do you say "I seem to have one"? Are you unsure of the body material or if your car was made in '78?

Note that even the steel cars have many GRP panels including below the bumpers front and rear, the spare tire well, wheel well liners, and the entire floorpan in the passenger area.

 

That would be May or June 78 production. Pretty late for a fiberglass car. The last one I am aware of was built very near the end of 77.

You seem uncertain it is fiberglass. Can you post a picture of the hood hinges?

 

I am on the road trailering it home be home tomorrow. I will then.

I'm a vette guy so I know glass. This appears nit to be metal. I didnt have a magnet on me. I will do magnet test tomorrow.

 

This thread is intriguing…not sure if glass? A-Pillar seam? Either no, or narrow license plate cutout on rear boat tail? Wire pulls to remove rear bonnet/deck lid? Floppy roof that you can press on with your flat hand and deform easily and pops right back into shape? Super light doors?

 

Ok just got home tapped the entire car felt under upper fender wheel wells and it has a coating on it like soft fiber? All panels sound not like metal but a dull how do indescribe it like a corvette body. I own 9 vettes. I depressed the GTS removable roof and it depress them comes back like plastic top rather then aluminum which I suspect it would be? I grabbing a magnet from down my garage this afternoon and check if ot sticks around body. I'm asking this as this is my first Ferrari and it sounds and feels underside like a vette? Strange to me.

 

Could just be a bondo skim coat on the whole thing.

I don't believe there were any GTS vetroresina cars made, only GTBs. But the GTS owners can verify this.

 

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This is it. And has correct paint code decal under deck lid for black.
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No GTS were glass

 

Apart from this one (supposedly) : https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ferrari-308-gts-vetroresina-prototype.579490/

Strangely, the owner of the "prototype" GTS claimed that the vehicle was a prototype because there were no chassis/identification numbers (as I noted in that thread - Every Ferrari, including the F1 and GT cars that were never going to be used on the public roads, have chassis numbers), and couldn't explain why the car showed signs of the chassis numbers blatantly being removed.
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There was a claim that the car in question never saw the Ferrari factory, and was the work of Pininfarina only, but that seems seriously unlikely - The GTB prototypes carried Ferrari chassis numbers, so why wouldn't a GTS prototype?

Added to that, the owner claimed the car was a unique prototype, but never bothered getting it verified by either Ferrari or Pininfarina - Surely if you owned what you believed to be a unique prototype, you would want it's provenance proven by the ultimate sources (Ferrari and Pininfarina), because that would add massively to it's value?

The owner didn't get the confirmation, praise and respect that they were hoping to get, and ended up throwing a hissy fit, "appalled" by the negativity towards their car, because people had the nerve to question it's authenticity, rather than just accepting the owners word that the car was a genuine glassfibre bodied GTS.

Personally speaking, I can see zero logic in Pininfarina making a GTS prototype in fibreglass, with all the work involved with making the bodywork, when GTB's were already being made in steel, and it would be far easier to make the GTS body in steel. I also can't see Pininfarina producing a prototype for a possible production car, without giving it a chassis number - Even if it was a unique Pininfarina chassis number, rather than a Ferrari Chassis number.

I feel totally confident in agreeing with you that no factory GTS' were ever made in glass - Including prototypes.

 

Here’s a pic of Resin GTB .
Euro spec.But I understand the resins cars had different rear lights ? To the later steel cars .
There might be other subtle rear deck lid differences too .

Hope this helps in your deliberations.
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Is your car a dry sump ?

 

A single pipe cut out of the rear valence is another tell tale of a resin car .

 

I did the magnet test other day and it stuck although not firmly as suspected it still stuck. I am intrigued by the body inner metal covering and the exterior feel and sound when tapped. I have much to learn about these cars I am just so fortunate to have bought my dream car. It's going to be fun to figure it all out. Thanks for the input from all.

Mark

 

I drove this GTS at Fiorano in 2022. Single pipe. I thought it was odd for a GTS
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Here is the chassis number
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That is standard and correct for a Euro 308GTS Carb so I believe post #19 is incorrect

 

Nope .
You have to take everything I said in post #19 together with post #18 , note the rear lights on the pic metal car .

Reiterating.

Resin .
Have both different rear lights colours and a single pipe valance together .Resin has reversing lights in the bumper and the outside rondal light is totally orange .
Steel have reversing lights incorporated into the yellow indicators

Early steel had a single pipe too .Many early inc resin were retro fitted a ANSA quad pipe back box which would hang under the single valance .Hence in post #19 I said the single “cut out “is a give away , but it’s with those lights as well not instead of .

Hope that clarifies?

Aside op now says a magnet sticks albeit weaker, so it’s imho caked in bondo .

As stated earlier by someone else they never made a GTS resin .No prototypes .

Here like this …….
The vetroresina unmolested…….note the lights AND the rear valance .
Of course you could fit a quad pipe exhaust, but the cut out in valance stays as a tell tale .

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Go to 2.0 onwards



Note the rear lights everyone = it’s a Steel but not proclaiming to be a resin btw .

Show us a pic of your cars arse please .

Btw none of this will detract from your ownership experience, we ( I ) are just clarifying what you have bought .What I have written is not intended to be derogatory.