LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

The technological highlight was the rolling chassis. Poor picture but it was amazing to see..

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FERRARI F80 - TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

• INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE (ICE)
  • Type: V6 - 120° - dry sump
  • Total displacement: 2992 cc
  • Bore and stroke: 88 mm × 82 mm
  • Maximum power: 900 cv @ 8750 rpm
  • Maximum torque: 850 Nm @ 5550 rpm
  • Maximum engine speed: 9000 rpm (dynamic limiter at 9200 rpm)
  • Compression ratio: 9.5:1
  • Specific power output: 300 cv/l
• HYBRID POWERTRAIN
  • Type: Concentrated winding stator, Litz wire and stator and rotor in a Halbach array configuration
• REAR ELECTRIC MOTOR (MGU-K)
  • Operating voltage: 650 - 860 V
  • Peak power
    • Regenerative braking: 70 kW (95 cv)
    • ICE assist: 60 kW (81 cv)
  • Peak torque: 45 Nm
  • Maximum engine speed: 30,000 rpm
  • Weight: 8.8 kg
• FRONT AXLE ELECTRIC MOTOR
  • Operating voltage: 650 - 860 V
  • Peak power: 105 kW (142 cv) for each of the two electric motors
  • Peak torque: 121 Nm
  • Maximum engine speed: 30,000 rpm
  • Weight: 12.9 kg
• HIGH-VOLTAGE BATTERY
  • Maximum voltage: 860 V
  • Maximum power (charge/discharge): 242 kW
  • Energy: 2.28 kWh
  • Maximum current: 350 A
  • Power density: 6.16 kW/kg
  • Weight: 39.3 kg
• WEIGHTS AND DIMENSIONS
  • Length: 4840 mm
  • Width: 2060 mm
  • Height (in kerb weight conditions): 1138 mm
  • Wheelbase: 2665 mm
  • Front track: 1701 mm
  • Rear track: 1660 mm
  • Dry weight: 1525 kg
  • Dry weight/power ratio: 1.27 kg/cv
  • Weight distribution: 42.2% front / 57.8% rear
  • Fuel tank capacity: 63.5 litres
  • Luggage compartment capacity: 35 litres
• TYRES AND WHEELS
  • Front: 285/30 R20
  • Rear: 345/30 R21
• BRAKES
  • Front: 408 x 220 x 38 mm (6 pistons per calliper)
  • Rear: 390 x 263 x 32 mm (4 pistons per calliper)
• TRANSMISSION AND GEARBOX
  • 8-speed dual-clutch F1 DCT
• ELECTRONIC CONTROLS
  • SSC 8.0: TC, eDiff, SCM, PCV 3.0, FDE 2.0, EPS, ABS-Evo in all Manettino modes, 6D sensor
  • performance ABS/ABD
• PERFORMANCE
  • Top speed: 350 km/h
  • 0-100 km/h: 2.15 s
  • 0-200 km/h: 5.75 s
  • 100-0 km/h: 28 m
  • 200-0 km/h: 98 m

 

I think it looks good.

I am sure when the F40 was introduced, if there message boards back then, people would be puking all over themselves as well.

 

0-300 km/h?

 

The price on this car is really something.

Ca €2.950.000 net

Over 4.5 times an SF90 XX

Over 12 times a 296 GTB (shared engine block)

LaF was roughly €1 million net

Roughly 4.5 times an F12 (shared engine block)

Just under 5 times 458/488.

Ferrari are absolutely milking it with F80, car will probably gross them close to, if not above, €1B in gross profit. Before XX and Spider.

 

I’m happy

 

296 gtb just did a 6:58 on Nordschleife
296 its 5,7 sec slower on Fiorano then F80, a track of 3km lenght.
Nordschleife has 22km. So over 7 time the lenght of Fiorano. F80 may be a sub 6:30 car.

 

Sorry if this is a repeat (there are too many messages for me to catch up on) but 799 F80s and 599 SP3s. Kinda makes the SP3 more special? Though I expect there will be an F80 Aperta in 2 years with less numbers which might be a closer match to the SP3 since they are both open tops.

 

I wonder what will be resale price of F80...

 

F80 is definitely a wow car.

Interestingly, the wheelbase is 1.5 cm shorter than in W1 but overall length is 20.5 cm longer!

Wheelbase / Length
F80: 2665 mm / 4840 mm
W1: 2680 mm / 4635 mm

W1 is 1.2 cm wider, but F80 is 4.4 cm lower.

Width / Height
F80: 2060 mm / 1138 mm
W1: 2074 mm / 1182 mm

Ferrari will be much more imposing with those dimensions.

 

Not to mention the F50 and Enzo designs which were both widely condemned when they were introduced. The F80 is no different and a lot of the people that hate it today will love it when they see it in person.

 

I did a very poor attempt on my phone to scribble away the black trim so i could get just an estimate on how this car would look like with no black trim across the front and this is what came out
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My dealer did not have pricing, where did you get the number?

 

So we have to love him because Ferrari is always right and only does extraordinary things, and we have no choice but to love him, otherwise we are a stupid person... Am I right ?

 

Are you blind or something ?!?
It's ****in' HIDEOUS, especially that UGLY black stripe.

This car is a monumental failure: it has less HP than the new McLaren, a **** V6 engine and it looks HIDEOUS.
Ferrari's management should be executed.

 

Enzo is rolling in his grave.

 

I think most of people here are too afraid to say it loud

 

A tad exaggerating isn’t it ?

 

Looks aside, and all things considered, I would rather have the T.50 than the F280.

 

Totally agree.

 

Not at all. To say I'm dissapointed is an understatement.

 

Totally agree.

 

Hell no. LaFerrari was gorgeous, this is hideous.

 

I don't get it why Ferrari kept the digital start/stop button. Turning your car alive is such an important interaction, and they reduced it to a cold digital flat surface. Just like the other modern F-cars. At 3 million euros(!!!), it should have a mechanical button that you can feel with your fingertips and be able to push or turn or whatever. It should feel far more special and tactile. We experience the world through our senses, and by feeling something with our fingertips, and being able to push/pull/turn, creates a much more engaging experience.
This is my biggest complaint about the F80. I actually thinks it is unacceptable for such a special car.

 

I'm not in the market at all, but ~$4mm for a V6 and Hot Wheels styling? No thanks, I'll head over to the Pagani dealer instead. Or the Bugatti dealer...or literally anywhere else, for that matter. Both this car and the W1 do nothing for me, nothing but spreadsheets on wheels. Sure, they generate incredible numbers, but the looks, the sound, the ethos...nothing. Hell if you really want a hybrid AWD tech fest, you can pick up a 918 along with your Pagani Utopia for roughly what this costs and I think you'd have more fun. I'm sure this will sell well to eastern buyers, but I really don't think many people spending $4mm on a hyper-limited production range-topping Ferrari are quite looking for something like this.