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  1. carvad

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    So, man at the photo in post #220 is Duke d'Aosta?
     
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    That's him, yes.
     
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    Giotto told me 5 cars when I interviewed him back in 2009... but we can imagine his memory is tricky !!!
     
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    ^^ i think i read somewhere this particular car had very poor fit & finish? .....never have heard anything further on production of it though

     
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    looks like a 'vette :(

    I LOVE the Bizza-Porsche gullwing...can't get much better than that!
     
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    Actually it's the other way around... Kutner bought the remains to this chassis, crashed in the So. Calif mountains in the late 70's, returned it to Italy and was rebodied by Diamonte... The car had been taken apart and repaired or replaced with one of the Kutner bodies, but never completed except the chassis damages. I have the damaged rear De Dion set-up that was part of what was left, as well as windows, seats, dash, gauges,door handles, lights,and two truckloads of hinges,hood and trunk latches uprights ect.... I just wanted a modern drivetrain I could drive everyday... so I've gone a different direction than a restoration... but beyond that to just go ahead and make it what I want.. to be driven. Photos attatched from an earlier owner I tracked down.... FYI
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    Yes he welcome me and my father in law at his appartment and we've spoken friendly for quite an hour !
     
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    To fully understand the story there has to be VIN numbers.
     
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    I don't believe I've ever heard mention of this car. Where might I find more info on this car?
     
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    In the official book
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    Working on the story do you have any pictures of the seats or bumpers? Any VIN ever mentioned.
     
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    Inside the book, you will find the VIN number
     
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    The Kutner car that you mention is well known chassis 247, are you saying the red car in your pictures is 247?

    Here is the chassis after the crash
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    The car my parts came from never was shown with wires...(wheels) I'll check through some of the interior pieces and panels for grease pencil or other markings... I never looked at them but I saw that some types of cars had vin #'s on interior panels and such. The owner that I got a few pictures from didn't recall or know the vin. (nearly 40 and 30+ years ago either had last seen the car...) He was glad he even had a few photos... That's what I know.. Yeah and mine definitely had a different shape to the rear wheel openings..than the pictures I got from him, I beleived it was a replica, but the lineage from the two owners led to these remnants I have...? Any how... I cut it up and made a buck for molds out of it... :)
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    The rims really have nothing to do with the car, what probably happens is this, Kutner would put on a worn out set of wires so the car would roll and keep the Campagnolo mags, or the mags got toasted in the crash.

    You are correct most all Bizzarrini's had grease markings on the back sides of panels, so that is a good check.

    Next the red car you show is very unique. It is unlike any other bizzarrini', and you have more than one picture proving this. The front bumper wraps all the way around the car. I do not believe the front or back bumpers were made by Bizzarrini.

    I believe the pictures of the car you are showing belonged to or had some relationship to Skip Hinojos AKA Mr Glass he had molds made of a Bizzarrini and used to advertise building Biz Copies, but his web site has since closed down.

    Here are a few pictures from the site. You can see the same bumpers and trim that your pictures show. I have a guess at what number the red car is, but it is not 247. I will wait and see if you can find ant grease pen markings before I guess
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    Vin 202 I think, as you see, the body was very, very large
     
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