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  1. enzo360

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    Does anyone know upto what s/n the GT-suffix was used?
     
  2. Boxer 512

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    First GT suffix was used at the start of 1954 on s/n 0357 GT which was a 250 Europa GT Coupe (1 of only 14 cars built that year by Ferrari)
    All sequential s/n's ending with 0383GT
    12 Coupe's (1 RHD) + 2 Berlinetta's

    Seb
     
  3. donv

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    At least up through the last 456GT, unless you want to count the 456M GT.

    I don't know if the 612 with be a "612GT."

     
  4. Boxer 512

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    I believe enzo360 is referring to the GT used at the end of the serial number ?

    If so, then this was 2157GT, although other suffixes were used after that including GTF (3807GTF) aswell as SF, SA, LM Etc.

    (SuperFast, SuperAmerica, LeMans) - in case someone needs to know ?

    Regards,

    Seb
     
  5. wax

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    "Reasonably certain" this list with GT being part and parcel of s/n is correct:

    250 Europa GT
    54-55 | 0357GT - 0427GT

    250 GT Boano Coupe
    55-57 | 0429GT - 0675GT

    4.9 Superfast
    57 | 0725GT

    250 GT Ellena Coupe
    58 | 0679GT - 0887GT

    250 GTE S1
    60-61 | 1895GT - 3083GT

    250 GTE S2
    61-62 | 3103GT - 4089GT

    250 GTE S3
    62-64 | 4093GT - 4961GT
     
  6. 134282

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    GTF...? Never heard that one before; what does the F stand for...?
     
  7. SefacHotRodder

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    France? Ferrari?
     
  8. El Wayne

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    GTF? 3807GT might be built on a type 508F chassis and is powered by a type 128F engine but, s/n 3807GTF?
     
  9. Bryanp

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    y'know - I noticed this the other night when I was looking up 2593 in reference to the "2223 and 2593" thread. Raab lists 2593 as "2593GTF" - I assumed this was a typo. Does it appear other places as well - like 3807? I have Raab at home, not here at work, so someone else will have to look up .. .
     
  10. zjpj

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    There exists the 250 GTF - see Cavallino #26 - but the GTF was a model designation and didn't come after the serial number. (?)
     
  11. El Wayne

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    Took a quick look. Looks as though he has "GTF" on all of the 250 Cabs. Has nothing to do with chassis or engine type. Something to ponder for later, though, as I have to run...
     
  12. LJH

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    If it is of any assistance as a point of reference, our 1966 330 GT Series II, s/n 8325 is stamped on the chassis rail as follows:
    FERRARI 330 GT *8325* and the chassis number on the firewall plate is stamped: *8325*

    There is no stamping that I can find that lists it as 08325GT or 8325GT, etc. The Heritage also shows tha chassis number simply as 8325. However, the homologation papers for the Series II reads as follows: (it looks like it is probably an addendum to the homologation of the Series I based on the s/n that Ferrari supplied.)

    F.I.A. Homologation No. 518
    Marque SEFAC-FERRARI Modele FERRARI 330/GT
    No. de serie chassis/carrosserie 4963/GT
    moteur 4963/GT etc., etc.
    Le modele est homologue le 1/1/1966 ...

    with a photo attached of the single headlamp Series II.
     
  13. bigodino

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    Hi all,

    I've seen a telaio plate (in the engine bay) of a 250 GT Series II cabriolet and the suffix clearly read GTF. Unfortunately I can't find it in my files anymore which car it was (which telaio) but as I was pretty amazed about it at the time I do remember it vividly.

    To come back at the question: I don't know when Ferrari stopped using the GT suffix but I have a picture of a telaio plate of a Daytona spider and it doesn't have the suffix anymore. My guess is somewhere in the 275 or 330 range.

    Ciao, Peter
     
  14. Boxer 512

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    Wayne,

    I believe 3807GT(F) was built on a 508EC Chassis and fitted with a 128E Engine ? As were all the cabriolet's ?
    (Other stuff about 3807 - Last PF Cabriolet built and it's Pf build no. was 30000).

    All of the PF Cabriolet's listed have the GTF suffix - could this be reference to "Farina" ?

    Seb
     
  15. driver

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    Wax...0665GT is a ZAGATO bodied TDF. I believe that there were 1 or two others.
     
  16. Boxer 512

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    There were 4 others, (5 in Total), 0515, 0537, 0665, 0689 & 1367.

    Regards,

    Seb:)
     
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    Hi all,

    What about this:

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  18. Boxer 512

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    Peter,

    That's a very intriguing picture ?

    0801GT was not a 250 GTS, it was, in fact, a 250 GT Series I Pinin Farina Cabriolet, Built in 1957 and fitted with a 128C Engine, not a 128F.....In fact the 'F' series engine was not seen until late 1959 ???
    The PF Build No. was Pf19464 and the engine no. was 064C.
    It was also used as the Geneva Salon Show Car in 1958.

    01801GT was fitted with a 128F engine though ???

    Were did the picture come from ?

    Regards,

    Seb
     
  19. bigodino

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    Hi Seb,

    I'll have to find out where I got the picture from. Maybe I saved it from the internet but maybe I scanned a picture made by myself (I think I've seen the car at Talacrest a few years ago). Will try to find out. According to your info this chassisnumber plate can't be right.

    Ciao, Peter
     
  20. bigodino

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    Well, I've searched my files but I made a mistake and never saw 0801 myself so it can't be a picture made by myself ( I mixed up with 0735 which I did see at Talacrest in 1999). So I definitely took the picture from the internet but that was some time ago so I unfortunately don't remember the source. Still I think it's genuine (why would someone make up such a plate?)

    Ciao, Peter
     
  21. Old Guy

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    Years ago (20+) when 0801 was at FAF Motorcars in Atlanta the concensus was that the data plate shown is not an original. The car had a number of other features as I recall which were added or changed after it left the factory.

    At one time blank (reproduction) data plates were widely available. I remember them from the 1970s, for instance.
     
  22. Gilles

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    Bigodino,
    Your source is Symbolic Motor Car where this car was to sell in 2000
    Gilles
     
  23. Boxer 512

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    Old Guy,

    Can you remember if the original 128C engine out of 0801GT had been removed ? and had a 128F engine installed instead?

    If so what happened to 064C (engine) out of 0801 ?

    Seb
     

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