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Reading paint meter ?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by yasir, Aug 22, 2005.

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  1. yasir

    yasir Formula Junior

    Nov 5, 2003
    352
    Just wondering if you guys can shed some light as to how to use a paint meter and also how reliable the readings are ?
     
  2. Fiat Dino 206

    Fiat Dino 206 Karting

    Apr 19, 2004
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    Mississippi
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    David
    Although I've never used one of the paint meters, I am seeing more and more of these instruments in use at classic auctions and used vehicle auctions.

    You might already have "Googled" for information, however; if not here is one site that may give you some information.

    http://www.defelsko.com/applications/dft-app/automotive-paint-meter.htm

    Best wishes
     
  3. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

    Dec 17, 2003
    2,037
    San Francisco
    I use them all the time. I have two which I like, the Elcometer and the ElectroPhysik Exacto. These tools are designed to measure tolerances at manufacturing plants, so they are more than up to the task of measuring the thickness of the paint on a car.

    To be precise, it'll measure the distance between the very top layer of paint and the underlying metal.

    If you're only planning on measuring newer cars, you can get away with a model that can only measure up to 20 Mils. If you're looking to use the tools on older cars (which all contain some amounts of bondo), you'll need a tool that can measure between 60 and 80 Mils. Also, you'll need to buy an "FnF" tool if you wish to measure Steel and Aluminum bodies.

    Expected readings on new Ferraris: 6-14 Mils
    Expected readings on vintage Ferraris: 15-40 Mils

    There's nothing like the satisfaction of walking away from what appears like an A+ car, because you've discovered there's a 1/8"+ layer of bondo concealing a shoddy repair job and/or respray. The car may gleam now, but that much bondo will certainly increase the likelihood of the paint cracking with use.
     
  4. ILuv4Res

    ILuv4Res F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Aug 8, 2002
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    Fred
    What if there is no Bondo? What if a panel was repainted due to a scratch or something that required no body-work, but required paint? Will the meter let you know if it's been repainted?
     
  5. ASG 86TR

    ASG 86TR Formula 3

    Aug 23, 2001
    1,474
    New Jersey
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    Adam G
    My close friend owns Elcomoter, and I have used one for years when I ran Paint Dept's for Ford's Assembly Plants. We had 50 places on a vehicle that we would check to verify uniform thickness at each process (Ecoat, Primer, Base, Clear). From that we would make adjustments in the robots.

    In a car at the auction that has not had bondo used you may still be able to tell if there is a consistant layer of paint applied. You may not be able to tell which coat is how thick, but you can tell the overall thickness.
     
  6. yasir

    yasir Formula Junior

    Nov 5, 2003
    352
    I was taken in once where i was told the car was all original but infact it had a resprayed q-panel.It is very easy for a friggin dealer to come up with stupid excuses for not knowing the paint work and i am definately in no mood to get screwed again.
    So is this elcometer or other paint meter devices reliable enough to detect paint work on any car ?
     
  7. xs10shl

    xs10shl Formula 3

    Dec 17, 2003
    2,037
    San Francisco
    I'll put it this way - I've found it to be infinitely more reliable than taking the sellers word for it.

    P.S. Paint meters only work on metal cars, not fiberglass.
     

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