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Fake shields, what's up with that?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by MufflerMan, Dec 15, 2005.

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  1. opus10583

    opus10583 Formula 3

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    Privateer competition cars should not.

    SF = Scuderia Ferrari = Team Ferrari.

    No individual car not run in a race by the factory should ever carry the SF fender shields.

    Street cars that were not compaigned by the factory should not, street cars that were never campaigned by the factory should not... the 2+2s would never.

    Iirc, Chinetti may have affixed NART badges to 275 GTB/4 Spiders, but that would have been incorrect for those that never raced as well.

    (And any Volvo wagon with a NART sticker should be torched.)

    This has all been muddled by the company applying them to the 288, F40, F50 & Enzo as new, and offering the shields as part of the Scaglietti customization program from the 355 on.

    ...But that ship sailed first when they called a 180deg V-12 a "Boxer".
     
  2. opus10583

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    A Dino with the word Ferrari or the cavalino rampante logo anywhere but on the door jamb plate is incorrect.
     
  3. 308 GTB

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    Sometimes a cheap sticker is the "real deal:"
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    I agree. I wonder which is really the fake? The original form of the graphic/sheild was used only on competition cars and was either painted on or plastic material, not an enamal badge. So the "fake" is really the enamel/cloisonne that has been offered by the factory and is really just a marketing item offered as an expensive option by Ferrari. Now having said that I still think the enamel shields are a cool touch, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone using the decal type either, ie; look at the above pic!!
     
  5. opus10583

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    Genuine: Cheap or flimsy vinyl or mylar on any vehicle entered into competition by the factory.

    Faux: Any type on any vehicle not entered into competition by the factory.
     
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    Nice to see the cracked tail light lens, also original! Nice pic, Barry! LOL!
     
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    >>>then it would be like staring at a pair of perfect tits but missing the nipples.

    PERFECT! Great analogy.
    I've said it before; I'd rather drive a 355 with shields than a Modena without them. It's always the first thing that catches my eye when I see a Ferrari.

    But the *real* question is this: If I put the aftermarket shields on my 1998 Acura CL, will people think it's a Ferrari? I mean, my coworkers thought that my Modena was a Mustang (they said it was because they saw a horse on the back). It still had the license plaque that said in big, bold letters "Ferrari of San Francisco", and the license plate frame said, "Ferrari of San Francisco", maybe 15 inches under said "horse"...
     
  8. Nero308

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    Here shows a variety of shields available in the market. The real OEM cloissone (enamel) one is also displayed here among others in case you may be wondering which one is the "genuine" and ridiculously expensive. This is not a quiz. While the whole debate on what is considered genuine and fake is all good, it is me who decides whether I put the shields on my car and moreover what type (genuine or non-genuine) I decide to put on based on my preference. The last thing I want is somebody to tell me what I do is right or wrong. I sell the replica shields but have never forced or tried to change their preference as it is a personal preference. What matters is whether you are happy with your car "as-is" or "tailored to your preference."
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    I'm guessing that the original Shield is the one that you are pointing to with your right toe. :)
     
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    BRAVO on your post! We have a 2+2 that often wears her shields when we take her out.

    Carol
     
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    Here's my take on the shields controversy. We have always heard that the only reason Ferrari made road cars was to finance the racing team. While that may no longer be true, what with the massive F1 sponsorships of today, it would have certainly still been true when my 328 was built in 1986.

    So if someone purchasing my car back then was, in a small way, helping finance the racing team, then the car should be entitled to wear the Scuderia shield as a badge of honor, respect and support.

    Forza Ferrari!
     
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    Just for the record, the OEM cloissone shield by Ferrari is the one above it (upper right hand corner). Our replica shield is the one on the upper left hand corner (though the yellow looks brighter or more vivid than the OEM shield in the picture, it is actually the same yellow color). Good try though!
     
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    That was the view most drivers had of Tony Adamowicz and Sam Posey's Daytona at the 1972 Le Mans 24 hours. They won second place in the Grand Touring car category and finished sixth overall.
     
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    Shields are basically for owners who want to make sure that anyone who sees their car recognizes it as a Ferrari. If anything, I think they take away from the look of the car.

    I always look at them the same way as I do for designer labels on the outside of clothes - trying to impress by brandname rather than from style and substance.
     
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    A good body man can recess the shields in the fender just like OEM. Here in the Atlanta area , Bo Pirkle, who has been doing paint and body work for FAF and now FoA from 25 years or so has been recessing SF shields for years.
     
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    So what does Ferrari think of the "fake" shields?

    Do you think that Ferrari approved the final design and dimensions of the "fakes"? - OH YES. They even have a trademark on the "F" in Ferrari.

    Is it possible that this Ferrari approved the design with the assumption that it would be put on fenders? - One would think that Ferrari already thought of this. Given the size of the "fake". Especially the enamel ones. (hint hint)

    Is it possible for a company, not licensed by Ferrari, to mass produce these "fakes" and sell them in authorized Ferrari dealerships around the world? - Highly doubtful. Dealerships can get into some serious trouble for selling knock off products.

    So why the big fuss over who should and should not have these on their cars? I think since Ferrari signed off on these little guys, then so should we....The officially licensed ones of course.

    But then again we all have our opinions.
     
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    Thank you from those of us "Ferrari Tifosi" who buy the one they want becacue they want it, not because they want someone to see them in it.
     
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    a pair of quality shields can negate a belt service.
    if they are inletted, then the PPI is waived. ;)
     
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    FYI, the Scuderia Ferrari shields on the race cars in the 50s and 60s were stickers, not the enamel type ones first put on the F40 and then offered as an option on every subsequent model.
     
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    FYI, Scuderia Ferrari= Ferrari Stable in Italian, not Team Ferrari.
     
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    Yes, of course, the literal translation is indeed "stable" but the meaning is still, through "all the racehorses belonging to a single owner or racing establishment",
    "team". ...And the shields thereby, or rather used to, denote, "factory team car".

    Now they are quite something else entirely.
     
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    288 GTOs had them before the F40.
     
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    Literally translated. Still means Team Ferrari.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned adding the shields to a car that didn't have them is like placing a stradale stripe on a car that didn't have it...It's tacky.. Just my opinion.
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