Need help buying F430 spider

Killing myself with laughter, very good work Clive. What posesses these people?

 

"Owned" I think is the appropriate term!

 

Wrong.

Ferrari expects dealers to have a year's worth of deposits in house for waitlisted cars. These deposits are reported to Ferrari.

If a dealer does not collect a deposit, nor tells someone that they have a waiting list, this is nowhere near the norm. Anyone who does not experience this must be very good customers who get special treatment.

Most 430 Spider lists are sold out for an anticipated 5 year model run.

 

Clive, this is the best thread i have ever read. It was obvious this guy is a total wanna be and never gonna be, but you provided the proof and did it in such a superb manner !

I wonder if this moron will try and continue this comedy any longer with yet more lies and eleborate boast's to being above the average human who buys Ferrari's.

Kudos to you Sir,

 

As a casual observer and veteran of many troll wars I am here to say, YOU need a new magazine (or forum) to aid you in achieving your morning, um, satisfaction!
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great stuff Clive! Brilliant!

 

Love your work Clive !

 

Clearly dealers are different in their approach. However, I must say that your friend situation with his dealer is odd. I am puzzled as to why they still want a deposit from him.

Regarding establishing a relationship the first rule is patience. There are a lot of people interested in doing the same thing. If you know clients of your dealer talk to them to determine if the dealer has a process which honors. That is, if you buy a car other than a 430 from them, do they stand by their timetable for getting you a 430?

If you have a comfort level that the dealer is reliable in word and deed, then go in and sit down with the dealer and tell them you want to become a client interested in buying a 430 and subsequent models. Your not in this just to buy one car. What do YOU need to do to position yourself to get a 430 and how long will it take? BTW, as a result of the DOT ruling an honest answer may be a new 430 is impossible because a new model is scheduled for late 2008. Thus if the list is longer than two years they probably can't do anything for you.

Only a dialogue of this nature can create an environment for establishing a client relationship. You need to show your commitment to a partnership between you and the dealer. It is no differen than any other business relationship. There must be a mutual benefit. This is not like buying a Porsche.

 

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David:

As fun fun as I'm having reading this I guess for the most part your questions have not been answered. First are you close by the dealer, if you are drop by a just talk to them, let them know you are a serious buyer and are willing to become a customer and one who plans on buying more than one car. Quite frankly if you even want a new one built for you, you will be buying at least one used one maybe more.

One of the biggest problems dealers face is that they always have more buyers than they have cars, and many of them have been buying cars for years.

 

Great pics! Got a laugh out of me! Nice detective work.

 

This may be a bit off topic but you should know the answer. What does the dealer do with the deposits? Are they held by Ferrari? Do they belong to the dealer? What happens if the dealer goes out of business?

You are at Cauley right? They are a newer dealer for Ferrari but have been selling Chevrolet on Orchard Lk. road for as long as I can remember but what happens to the deposits that they have if, God forbid, something happened and Caulley got out of the Ferrari business? I assume that the deposits get refunded but what about those that were getting close to the top of the list?

In my industry all this is HEAVILY regulated by the Federal Trade Commision and the money has to be held by an unrelated third party. How about with $5,000 deposits on a car to be produced later?

 

As far as I know, deposits sit in the dealership's bank account. Ferrari of North America can audit us at any time, and when a deposit is reported to them, it better be there if they come a knockin'.

I have no idea what would happen to deposits in house if a dealership were to go out of business. I like to think that is an issue I will never have to deal with.

 

Clive,
You the man!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Great investigative work there Clive.
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Great work Clive!

 

Good work Mr Sugar - I mean Clive .

 

Seems like a lot of energy wasted trying to smoke out a BSer but OTOH it's better to know the truth(or close to it) so that people aren't mislead. Good work if in fact this guy is a phony.

BTW, this follows the typical pattern of a BSer i.e. big claim that leaves you wondering, then a reluctance to veryify, followed by them trying to turn it around saying that they shouldn't have to prove anything. Finally they either cop to it or disappear. All the phonies follow this typical pattern.

 

Ditto, I've never laughed so much since I started on here ;-)

 

Clive, This thread is great, keep it up ;-)

 

entertaining thread!
deeroff doesnt show to have been online since the nice pics were posted!
can't wait for the response!

 

Jackoff Deeroff has been pretty quiet..... HMMM.

You think his mommy caught him playing on daddy's 'puter?

 

FChat Silver Membership... $15
Computer... $2000
430 Spider at MSRP...$250K
Deeroff getting busted by the Fchat BS police... Priceless.

 

you never know!
he might have a comeback!!!
the anticipation is killing me!
not really, but hate to see this soap opera of a
thread come to an end right after i found it!

 

You probably won't as Jeff Cauley seems to have his head screwed on straight...but nobody has asked you? Seems like a reasonable question to me if I am forking over 5 grand as a deposit for a delivery that will probably take three years...since I don't have deeroff's clout