Here ya go - '85 Euro 308GTS QV - December '84 production, SN 55057 - Assembly # appears to be 950 Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks, I know that is where they are shown on the 308 series. I was wondering where to look for the 'plate' that supposedly was installed starting with the 348 series. I looked for about twenty minutes last night and could not find anything. There is a '40' stamped all over the frame (maybe four places). Maybe Luigi did not get the memo to add the plate when my car was built. BT
My '86 328 (November 1985) has the number 2 stamped on the inside of the front bonnet. Is this the equivalent to the 308 location?
The assembly number for 348s (and 355s) is on a small plaque in the engine bay on the left-hand side (if you are facing the front of the car) roughly above the rear wheel. It is clearly visible, assuming it is there. Jonathan
Thanks. So I guess my car is missing it, or Luigi did not get any plaques before my car was built. NNO estimates it to be around the 35th 348 built. Appreciate the location, that is where I was looking for the plate. BT
I found this picture from another thread (I think it was posted by Miltonian). This clearly shows the assembly number plate for a 348 (right above the shock tower bolt). My car does not have that plate, and apparently never did. BT Image Unavailable, Please Login
This is so cool, I have to know the truth about this. My car is the youngest so far!! vin# ZFFLA13S000059149 1985 308 QV GTS Euro production (Switzerland) July 1985 #1261 frame stamp From what I have gathered from this thread, this is my understanding: My car is #1261 of all LHD Euro 308 GTS QV's built? Tell me if i'm wrong. Does the left or right hand drive enter into the equation?
I was curious about that number as well thanks for the thread. Here is mine from what I have at the office: March 1980 308 GTSi Vin: .31521 30 A Image Unavailable, Please Login
MANY thanks for posting the data!!!!! Car here is LHD as well and originated from Austria. Frame stamp 1239 on Euro 308GTS QV built June 1985... with VIN# is 58939 To date, your 308 is the first i have seen with online owner/records that is still alive and built later than the car here. VERY interesting! So there are 22 cars out there according to the frame stamp, with vin being 210 away and we divide by 2 as Ferrari uses all odd numbers, so that leaves us with 105 car VINs. So 105 cars made between June and July 1985??? Do i have all these numbers correct???
If I've read the posts correctly, Ferrari changing it's model year in June. My '78 has a manufacture month of June, apparently before the model year change. 1978 308 gt4 #14244 - the number stamped on the coil mount and on the headlight assemblies is 604. So, I'm guessing it's late in that years production run. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Rob, This Certificate of Origin came with my car. I guess you can try contacting the the dealership who originally sold your car and see if they can find it. Ferrari SpA should have a copy too. The assembly number stamped on my car's coil mount is 5A. 1976 North American version 308 GTB Fiberglass S/N 19399 May, 1976 build, second of the 100 North American version fiberglass GTBs built. Barry Image Unavailable, Please Login
Damn! The told me they did not have it (FNA) and the dealer is gone. I did meet a lady on ebay who worked at Modern classic Motors for 20 years and she said she would look through her stuff. I bought a perfect 76 parts manual l from her. I looked today and my number is 410, I only looked on my headlights as I am in the process of working on my car! 1975 gt4 #10766 04-28-75. Rob
Just came across this thread, which has been running for over a year now. My 1984 308QV (Euro) -- Serial Number 48343 -- is stamped with #394. Earlier in this thread, Greg Owens posted info. on his car (s/n 48345 -- next in the sequence of odd number s/n's after mine), and it was stamped with #395 (the next number in the sequence after my #394). Hey Greg, if you happen to see this, hope all is well with you and #48345 and I have a question for you. You've indicated that the date of manufacture for your car was October 1983, although your car is titled as a 1984. My car is also titled as a 1984 and a tag on the driver's side door (some sort of import label?) indicates a DOM of May 1984. I've noticed that other cars with serial numbers well beyond ours have been listed as 1983 cars. Where did you find out that your DOM was 10/1983? Regards, Charlie
This might be a stupid question but I was wondering. I didn't know there even was a paint chip window, and its kinda neat. But why does everyone have that little window peeled back. Mine is intact and I was wondering what occurs to have someone open it. Is it just to determine the original color and that number?
Here is my guess: I work in a small auto factory and we get our frames and bodies from our factory in another country. We order the frames and bodies from the factory with options that we anticipate the customer will want and they come in numbered sequentially. We do the final assembly and they go out in an order very different from the way they come in. Our body numbers also happen to become the VIN numbers so it is easy to tell when the car was originally made, but not completed or delivered. My thought is that Ferrari did this same thing, ordered a bunch of chassis/bodies anticipating customer demand and had the pile of chassis ready to go. They would order so many rhd GTS and GTB chassis and so many lhd GTS and GTB etc, US, EU, JAP, GB etc... They probably used the internal/mystery/assembly number to keep track of these. Depending on options and destination they would be sent to the assembly line as orders came in and this number was used during assembly (hence assembly number). The order on the line as well as the serial number would not necessarily match up sequentially with the assembly number. This would tie in with the factory's response as well as back up the data that has been gathered.
This is one of the things that puzzles / frustrates me about these cars. Not only does my car not have a DOM plate, there are no holes on the drivers side door, anywhere, that would indicate the plate was ever there! My October date comes from some of the paperwork that I have for the car as far as when it was shipped from the factory. I'll go back and look at the records tonight to make sure I was looking at the correct dates. Chuck...I'll send you a bio on my car via email. Maybe you and I can trade some notes back and forth to better narrow down when our babies were really born. P.S. Yes, everything is good with 48345. Did my own major, clutch build, and CV joint R&R this past February! She runs like a champ. Getting ready for a 300 mile rally tomorrow! Hows 48343 and the 355C?
my GTB has the *246* number in several places. the panels in the rear are the easiest to photograph aside from the coil-pad number. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
My '82 Euro GTS QV's DOM plate is just a sticker, no rivits. It was added long after mfg, and is wrong. I think it was stuck on either when the car was imported into Canada, or into the US. It says the car is an '84, but I have a FAX from FNA saying Euro GTS QV S/N 43825 was built in Oct. '82. Paint flap # is: 67. So it's a very early QV indeed. I'm still fuzzy about whether the numbers are for the entire run of each style, or do they start over each mfg. year? I think I've read both in this thread. In the case of my car, I think it's moot as the QV was introduced in October of '82, so I think that my car was the 67th Euro GTS QV built!!! Kind of funny that Steven & I have Euro GTS QVs very close to opposite ends of the production run. My car's body has always been somewhat anomalous, more like a GTSi that someone had dropped a QV engine into: Round instead of rectangular indicators on front finders, came with 2V injected manuals rathar than QV manuals, The bonnet louvers are black anodized Al instead of body color, the cam gears are plastic ones, has the common belt for alternator & WP... Would like to compare notes with someone with a similar car with a lower flap #.
Wow, I worked all day trying to get my car back together after my radiator leak. I ended up painting the inside of the hood with Krylon semi flat black which worked great. I had to dust the last coat on to get a even finish. I spent yesterday prepping, I put eastwood masking film over the outside paint then 3m green masking tape all around the edges then I used alcohol and eastwood paint prep to get the surface ready and decided to scuff up the paint. I noticed some ruins so I sanded on them for a while and thought hey thats how it came from the factory. Anyway yesterdays paint had some streaks in it so I painted it again today and using the sun as a guide to get the paint even I noticed this! My number put on the hood with some kind of brushstrokes, I am assuming some kind of liquid bondo! Wow!!! It is still readable after I sanded on it for 30 minutes!! HA!! When I saw this thread I said to myself Ive had my car for 12 years and never seen any of that stuff now I am finding the number everywhere. I am not a number!! (The Prisoner) #410 Happy New Year Everyone Image Unavailable, Please Login
