More Old Photos

Thank you David for those terrific shots. This is my favorite thread on F-chat. Here is a small contribution of my own, Villeneuve at Long Beach, 1981.

Cheers,
Kurt O.
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am I right with 0870 for the 312 P in Bridgehampton and 051 for Villeneuve in Long Bach?

 

Thanks David. All Can-Am pics are more than welcome ;-)

Matthias, according to a french magazine, it was 0870. Pedro Rodriguez finished 5th, wich is a pretty good result for a 3l facing Big Bangers.

 

David,and all the other contributors to this fantastic thread:

Thank you for being generous,sharing these beautiful photos of racing history.
This is the best thread ever,thanks to all your efforts!



Tony D.

 

That's what a F1 car should look like! A fire breathing machine with wings and pipes and all sorts of carbs poking about. Wonderful shots

thanks

ken

 

My model version of the car. Not totally satisfactory, but .......

http://public.fotki.com/GMann/chinetti_-_nart/1969_bridgehampton.html

http://public.fotki.com/GMann/chinetti_-_nart/1969_bridgehampton-1.html

http://public.fotki.com/GMann/chinetti_-_nart/1969_bridgehampton-3.html

Gil

 

Thanks David,

I only started shooting photos about 1975 and rarely went out of So. California so my collection isn't nearly as extensive as yours. But, like you, I'm happy to post some for everyone to enjoy. It doesn't make much sense to have them sitting in a storage box like they have been for 20+ years. Here are a couple from Long Beach 1976 when I was just starting out.

Lauda and Regga's cars in the pit lane before practice. And then Regga and Lauda getting ready to take to the track.

Cheers,
Kurt O.
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I have quite a few gathering dust in boxes as well.

Here are two from the Grand Prix of Great Britain, Brands Hatch 1982

Pironi (2nd) and Tambay (3rd)
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Two more
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Wow, great F1 photos guys! How about some more sports car race photos too.

 

Here are a few I ran across the other day...

A 166MM with a chevy small block !!

A 275GTB

Both of these taken at Road America about 1970

And... #21 Bill Cooper of Racine, WI , Can-AM 412 A/SR taken at the 1971 June Sprints.
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1981 Daytona, Ferrari 308 GTB Turbo Jolley Ckub. A very short race for this car.
Photographs by John Hutson.

Gil
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And again: Daytona, Ferrari 308 GTB Turbo Jolley Ckub.
Photographs by John Hutson.

Gil
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any chassis number for this car?

Regards


Wolfi

 

18855 and 19051 are related with Jolly Club. 18855 has a US-history.

 

i have 19835 for a similar car - not recorded by myself !

 

incredible version...at the front side it look already a F40

 

nice pictures, the 275 gtb is great in black & white

 

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Originally Posted by tomgt
any news? Whereabouts of these cars? Like to see them racing against BBLM's or 308 GT/M

Based upon a recent press article ,the most adequate indication for the car shall be " Ferrari 308 GTB IMSA Gr.5 Carma". Back 1979/80 the gentlemen drivers Carlo Facetti and Martino Finotto ( names initials : Car-Ma FF ) operated a small shop in Zingonia ,close to Bergamo, realizing with a small team of technicians this Gr.5 racer on the "silouhette" of the Ferrari 308. The target was the participation at Gr.5 championship and IMSA races.
From the original 308 body only the mid section was maintained, front and back sections were redesigned, including corners ( suspensions and wheel hubs) and external panels. The transverse mounted V8-3L engine was turbocharged via 2 K27 turbochargers+aftercoolers but maintained carburators. To improve air flow a new 4 valve engine head was designed ( at that time QV was not in production by Ferrari) as well as a new, high capacity engine water cooling system to accommodate a top power of 920 to 950 HP @ 8800 RPM for a max torque of 105 KGM @ 6500 RPM. By a a mass of 1020 KG the car was REALLY fast and could reach a top speed between 285 and 415 Km/H, based upon trasmission, on 19" wheels.
In 1981 car debuted at 24 hours of Daytona and completed just 10 laps but performed the best lap in 1'48"14, in front of Porsche, Lancia and many other factory cars. In the same year the car raced at Monza, Pergusa, Silverstone and Kyalami . Few races were made also in 1982. Accordingly to Mr. Facetti, the car was too advanced and difficult to develop ,for the technology level of the `80 , the limits being posed by tires ,engine management / electronics, transmission and aerodinamics ( made in house at Carma by Mr. Degan, former Alfa Romeo/Autodelta engineer ). As reference Mr. Facetti cited that at Daytona practice, he passed on the straight line the Porsche of Danny Ongais "like he was at idle", in fact Danny's speed was 357 Km/H. All together it seems that 3 of these cars were made, one owned by Mr. Roberto Benelli. The full article can be asked at [email protected]
PS. This project had apparently nothing in common with the Michelotto developments on the 308 even if there are some similarities, being Michelotto at that time more oriented to rally cars. To be noted that on the same time frame Ferrari had in house own developments on V8 turbo applications, which later became 208 Turbo, 288 GTO and F40.
Morcal

 

If it's the Carma Car and I have some other pictures showing the same car on race no. 10, then it is 18935 (and not 19835)

 

Hi David
Will mine do? The MIGHTY Carma FF308 taken at Silverstone. I remember standing at Copse, which is fairly quick, but even so you could see the acceleration which was visibly more than the Porsche 935s. What an exciting car.
Nathan
PS I have other photos but apparently I've exceeded my attachment limit?
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