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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by WILLIAM H, Aug 25, 2007.

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  1. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

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    So I am thinking that we will see a full CF tub & body like an Enzo or F50 but at a lower cost, similair to a 430

    with regenerative brakes, solar panels on the roof to extract air from the hot cabin when its parked or possibly to help charge batteries on a potential hybrid

    Maybe an intelligent active suspension

    What kind of engine though ? Gas, diesel, hybrid ? V8- V10- V12 ?

    Europeans seem to prefer diesel to hybrid for energy conservation so I dont think its totally out of the question to eventually see a diesel powered Ferrari with enormous torque, the trick will be to keep the distinctive wail of the Ferrari engine.

    Is this even possible w a diesel ?
     
  2. S.H

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    The day Ferrari announce that they even thinks about making a car that is trying harder to conservate energy than going fast as hell, or is thinking more about the environment than conering-speed, in my eyes, the brand Ferrari is no more.

    Sorry that I wasn't so specific to topic.
    - To be, though, I think it would be nice seeing CF bodys on all Ferraris. Thats the only bit, though :)
     
  3. WILLIAM H

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    I dont think speed and conservation are opposites.

    After All Audi won at LeMans w a diesel and Peugeout had their diesel there too.

    Diesels have much higher torque than gas engines which means harder acceleration

    Then look at the excellent Lotus Exige which is a fantastic car in terms of both conservation AND speed.

    I really think the Elise/Exige are pointing the way to the future. We can have small attractive cars that conserve resources yet are also VERY fast

    whether it wants to or not Ferrari will eventually be Forced to look at conservation by bureuacrats and the market as well as gas prices.

    If there is no more gas in the future then Ferrari will Have to come up with another engine or it will be forced out of business
     
  4. Far Out

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    No Diesel. We in Europe might like big Mercedes or BMWs with big Diesel engines, even something like the Audi R8, but one of the classic sportscars like Porsche or Ferrari? No way! Nevertheless, I'd love to see a hybrid Ferrari. I'm curious about the way they would realize it.
     
  5. WILLIAM H

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    Hybrids are meant for doing errands around town because they save a lot more gas in town than a regular car but not so much on the highway, Hybrids are Not for running at high speed so a hybrid doesnt really suit a Ferrari
     
  6. S.H

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    I think you're making a good point on the Audi - you would have to decide, though, what you'd rather like a fast car to be; energy conserving, more MPG and quiet as hell, or loud as hell and higher fuel consumption. If I were to choose, even though I knew I would win the race in a Diesel, I would never choose it. IMO Audi is ruining motorsports, and I certainly hope that this Diesel thing is only temporary.

    I would not doubt that the Exige is a great car, and a lot of run to drive, and it makes great sense for a brand like Lotus. Talking about Ferrari, though, I think it would never work. Ferraris aren't about conserving energy by making smaller cars so that smaller engines can be put in them. Make the cars smaller and lighter, that's perfect with me, but keep the engines big and V12. If I was concerned about energy consumption I'd buy a Toyota. But I'm not.

    I don't think we will ever run out of either gas or oil - if scientists can clone a sheep, I'm pretty sure that can produce a replacement product for gas and oil that is working exactly as the real thing.
     
  7. Joe360

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    I think Ferrari will have to start turbocharging their cars again.

    EU policy requires European car manufacturers to reduce the emissions from their cars.
    However, reducing emissions AND increasing hp is quite difficult if not impossible unless using a turbocharger.
     
  8. Far Out

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    Yes, they won't suit Grand Tourismos for Autobahn cruising. But on the track, you have a lot of brake/accellerate situations, which might suit a hybrid very well - better fuel economy and a lot of torque at low revs
     
  9. WILLIAM H

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    good point, I hear F1 will start using regenerative braking soon
     
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    I would be surprised if the Enzo replacement didn't have "intelligent" glass that can change in opacity.

    -F
     
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    I wonder how THAT will look like. I can't see any other way of recycling the 'brake energy' than converting it into electric energy - which is basically useless if the car is only powered by a combustion engine. So to use it you would have to add electric motors, batteries for energy storage etc etc, rendering the car a hybrid. Does anyone have insight in that topic? I really wonder what system they'll use.
     
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    A flywheel system has been mentioned - it is suggested that this could offer a better power storage - to - weight ratio than an electrical system, with it's heavy motors and batteries.

    Perhaps someone could comment further on the issue of turbocharging being necessary for reduced emissions. I personally cannot see why this would be the case - other than getting more power from less cubic inches, and perhaps resulting in weight reduction. For example, does a Porsche Turbo car get a cleaner emissions test than a normally aspirated one? I doubt it very much.
     
  14. DMaury

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    Market forces and gas prices will never drive Ferrari to make any changes. Those things really don't come into play for the owners. I have no idea what gas costs per gallon now, I just fill up the cars. It'll have to be a decision on Ferrari for their own reasons, or a mandated thing by regulatory agencies.
     

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