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Discussion in 'Australia' started by ASIO, Jan 29, 2009.

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  1. ASIO

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    Seeing your in the field....

    Wanted to know about those portable on wheels aircons, not the evaprotive rubbish, but the proper compressor type.

    Do you know of any make/model that does NOT spew hot air out the rear when operating?

    Ciao

    M
     
  2. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    no i don't sorry. it's not really my field.
     
  3. dkabab

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    well im not Pap or Aircon, but im sure the evaporative ones with a water tank dont blow hot air. they get rid of the heat through the water.
     
  4. beama

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    Not your field! *sigh* Takin ma business elsewhere.
     
  5. Aircon

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    your money is no good here! :)
     
  6. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    you misread his post.

    as far as i know, there still isn't any refrigerated air conditioning that doesn't require heat exchange to outside (i.e. blowing out the hot air)

    but the way technology is, nothing would surprise me.
     
  7. beama

    beama F1 Rookie

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    What currency do yous use there? I've even got some pesos and monopoly money.
     
  8. dkabab

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    he must have changed it... like he changed the title.... :)
     
  9. ASIO

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    Prezactly, i checked the usual suspects, Panasonic, Sanyo, Mitsubishi, LG etc etc and NOBODY has made one yet.

    I blow enough hot air, dont need a A/C to make more.

    Sticking a hose out the window to discharge hot air does not seem all that bright really, game-on for the first to make one, will make billions if they can patent it.

    Thanks anyway

    Ciao,

    M
     
  10. mhh

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    Isn't it a basic law of physics? The thermal energy has to go somewhere. What are you hoping for - energy to disappear? You might as well wait for someone to invent a way of reversing time or stopping gravity.
     
  11. moretti

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    ahh, but some smart person could come up with an idea for using the extracted heat by recycling it into a thermo-motor Mark :)
     
  12. Aircon

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    i think i read somewhere that that had been done :)
     
  13. b27

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    Very true, perpetual motion is another that comes to mind.
     
  14. RMV

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    silicon valley.
     
  15. Aedo

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    like MHH says - that would violate the laws of thermodynamics. An airconditioner is a heat pump - it pumps heat from one place to another (inside to outside).


    no they repackage hot air into marketable chunks :p
    been done - convert modest heat into power... essentially uses an airconditioner in reverse :)
     
  16. dkabab

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    on the topic of cooling things down. is there anything in the pipeline that can chill something as quick as a microwave would heat....
    for example, throw a few cans in, hit a button, 2 mins later they are icey cold......
     
  17. Aedo

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    sure :)

    A CO2 fire extinguisher! Can cool a slab of beer in about 15 seconds!
     
  18. ashsimmonds

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    I bought a cheap portable evaporative mistral last week just before our 45+ day, it doesn't pump out chilly air, but cold enough to keep a west facing room surrounded in floor to cieling windows *just* cool enough to sleep in.
     
  19. Aircon

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    as long as it's not humid, maybe.
     
  20. ashsimmonds

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    I was very sceptical when I cranked it and found it wasn't cold, it made the mirrors mist up a little but when the outside temp dropped to 40 around midnight :/ I cracked open the door a little.

    Either way - it got me thru three consecutive days of 42+ and provided a hospitable sleeping environment, so Im happy with my $118 outlay.
     
  21. b27

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    Chuck it in some liquid nitrogen for 1 millisecond. :D
     
  22. Aircon

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    you're cheap and easy!!

    in humid melbourne they're usually next to useless.
     
  23. ashsimmonds

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    There's a device that can chill a bottle of wine in a few mind at woolies licker in rundle - not sure if there's a take home version.
     
  24. b27

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    Hey where did the thread on ash go.

    And BTW are you guys making up hah. :D
     
  25. ashsimmonds

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    All true - Adelaide has a mostly dry heat, but it's still *next to* useless, you can't cool a room down with it, but you can reduce the amount it heats up.
     

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