The future according to Aircon.... | FerrariChat

The future according to Aircon....

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Feb 16, 2009.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    I've been checking out some VWs lately. Has anyone noticed how fantastic they're becoming? And Audis?

    VW owns Lamborghini, Audi, VW, Bentley, Skoda, Seat, and Bugatti, and whilst they compete with each other, they also share the technology.....and it shows. Look at the specs and prices on VW and Audi and compare them to BMW, Porsche and Mercedes and you'll see what I'm getting at. I don't see how, long term, the others can compete.

    I've also come to the realisation that the 599 must be the first truly unisex Ferrari. I've seen and heard of more totally non car women driving these cars than any previous model. I can only assume that the difference in the drivability of a 599 and a BMW or Mercedes is non existent. The days of Ferraris being the slightest bit difficult to drive are clearly gone. Whether or not that's a good thing, I can't say.
     
  2. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    ooops...i forgot about the porsche/VW tie in
     
  3. ASIO

    ASIO Formula 3
    BANNED

    Dec 15, 2006
    1,996
    & Scania trucks

    Oh, and i must be the only person on earth who does NOT like VW Group product.

    I will pass

    Ciao

    M
     
  4. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    i already said Bentley! :)
     
  5. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    99,373
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
  6. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 7, 2006
    77,340
    Wurundjeri man.
    Full Name:
    Arvin Grajau
    for me its a GTi Golf or a Polo GTi
     
  7. Aedo

    Aedo F1 Rookie

    Feb 22, 2006
    3,616
    Perth
    Full Name:
    Steve
    No - you are not alone!
     
  8. neilo63

    neilo63 Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
    218
    Brisvegas
    Full Name:
    Neil
  9. Modeler

    Modeler F1 Veteran

    May 19, 2008
    7,330
    State of confusion
    Full Name:
    a.n.other
  10. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    99,373
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Dont worry mate, I can safely assume they are still CRAP to drive! :D:D

    I love Herbie, always have since I was a kid. Adding this to the garage is a lifelong dream. :eek::eek:
    (Well, not really. But I still love Herbie. :D:D)



    Lol!! What a legend! ;);)
     
  11. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Jun 23, 2003
    100,524
    Melbourne, Australia
    Full Name:
    Peter
    i've had a couple of them. i quite liked driving them.
     
  12. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 11, 2005
    45,906
    Full Name:
    Toe Knee
    sooooo when are flying cars happening?
     
  13. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    99,373
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Been there, done that. ;);)

    Havent you seen 'Back To The Future' before? :p:p
     
  14. kongman

    kongman F1 Rookie

    Aug 30, 2006
    4,545
    brisvegas south
    Full Name:
    mr p
  15. hummel

    hummel Formula Junior

    Nov 8, 2006
    360
    Melbourne
    Full Name:
    Adam
    Polo gti for during the week and '74 kombi for the beach runs. Good fun :D :D
     
  16. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    99,373
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Lol, I never liked Kombi vans. :p:p

    Was also fortunate enough to AVOID working on them too! :D:D
     
  17. Modeler

    Modeler F1 Veteran

    May 19, 2008
    7,330
    State of confusion
    Full Name:
    a.n.other
    Saw a kombi t-bone a bus. Driver was inside the windscreen. Like a Dali painting or a mosaic.
    Screen still in place.. Just millions of little pieces.
    Wouldn't drive one without a bull bar. Bloody horrible to drive anyway.
    Campervan maybe, if you're into turtle travel but not much use to me otherwise.
    Drove one across the hippy trail.
     
  18. GTRMagic

    GTRMagic Formula 3

    May 18, 2004
    1,902
    Sydney, Australia
    Full Name:
    Hey Mr Dee Jay....
    911's? ;) :D :p
     
  19. j15

    j15 F1 Rookie

    Jan 5, 2005
    2,624
    Sydney Australia
    Full Name:
    Jeh
    I think the VW Golf GTI is the best value car on the market for ergonomics, fun, and bang for your buck.
     
  20. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    99,373
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap

    Our old Boilermaker Mark (now turned Maintenance Supervisor) was almost killed in his Kombi van back in the early 80's. :(:(

    He and his best mate planned a road trip from Mount Isa to Sydney. The same day they arrived in Sydney, they had a head on smash into a big truck, on the freeway at 100 km/h. Mark was almost killed, but his best friend was killed in the accident. They were both 21yrs old. :(:(

    Mark spent 6 months in hospital down there. He shattered both his legs etc...etc..and he is still hurting to this day. :(:(
     
  21. goober

    goober F1 World Champ

    Nov 15, 2004
    15,894
    Adelaide & Thredbo
    Full Name:
    Buddy Miles
    Gm/ chev/ pontiac/ buick/ isuzu/ subaru/ holden/ opel/ vauxhall/ GMC/ hummer/ saturn/ saab/ cadillac/ oldsmobile/ AC delco/ GM goodwrench/ GM Daewoo and GM military (gun turrets for tanks built in sadelaide)
     
  22. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 7, 2006
    77,340
    Wurundjeri man.
    Full Name:
    Arvin Grajau
    x1
     
  23. vroomgt

    vroomgt Formula 3

    Aug 23, 2004
    2,129
    Brisbane Australia
    Full Name:
    John ARBA
    On my second Audi Allroad.

    The first sold with 50K and I lost so little when traded was embarrassing.

    The second car now has 30k.

    The only fault I have had with either car was with the Blue tooth fiber optics in the current car.

    The design and attention to detail is streets ahead of their competitors.

    However, like just about any modern car owning one out of warranty is not a thought I'm entertaining; They are beautifully built but I'm not under any illusion that the materials used are going to have the longevity of my W124 MB wagon.

    As a day to day proposition Audi are hard to go past.
     
  24. wrxmike

    wrxmike Moderator
    Moderator Owner

    Mar 20, 2004
    7,577
    Full Name:
    Mike
    And one major difference is that VW group is solvent, and that generally build cars that you would consider owning :)

    PP's has a good point about VW , they do have a lot of platforms that they can share technology across, and they have generally improved the marques they have taken over -
    just consider the improvements made at Lamboghini since VW got involved, vs say compared to the period when Chrysler owned Lamborghini in the 80's /90's.
    The risk to the lower volume manufacturers is that their cars fail to evolve rapidly enought to stay sufficiently ahead of their competitors - and thus lose the uniqueness and desirability that justifies the higher prices.

    M
     

Share This Page