Gearbox service cost/difficulty

$6,500 would be a guess.

 

the linkage can be out of adjustment, there is also some adjustment in the clutch travel. usually 2nd gear is the one thats an issue, 3rd sounds like an adjustment issue as opposed to a rebuild needed. a good shop should be able to put the car on a rack and check the shift shaft travel measurements and tell you. this should be done on a PPI anyway, before you buy the car, as it may have other issues.

good luck to you, and welcome to FChat.

 

I'd say you were competent enough to do it. You will have to buy/borrow some special tools, and F-car parts ain't cheap, . There are many people here who can help you through it.

 

Price synchros - I think they are about $500 each.

 

And then price in some of the gearbox bearings...and possibly 3rd gear, By the time you're done, parts (alone) will be between $3,000-$4,000. Labor to pull the engine, separate the gearbox from the engine and then tearing down the gearbox is considerable.

Personally, with all the labor involved, I'd just do it right, versus just replacing a single synchro...as likely, there's more damage/wear than you think.

 

Uh..... speaking from experience....

If you're in SoCal... send a pm to FerrariFxr. He did mine very reasonably. I pulled the engine and then separated the gearbox. I did it for my GT4.

Word of caution: It's not easy.

Check out this thread for more information: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112150

Special tools?: Yes, you'll need the two special sockets for the ring nuts.

Synchro's were $341 (IIRC) each.

 

That's excactly what I found out. I thought it was a synchro and it turned out to be worn gears. People love to rev their cars up to listen to them, even when they "think" that sitting still doesn't hurt. Wrong!

In the Fearrari gearbox, EVERYTHING moves. Even in neutral! So when you rev that puppy up to hear the sweet sound of the exhaust, when the gearbox is still cold, you're putting severe wear on the gears.

After spending almost $5K for a rebuild (after I pulled the motor and separated it from the gearbox), I ended up re-selling my synchro's to Pizzaman Chris.

Rule #1: Don't buy parts until you know what you need.

...thinking.

Oh wait! That's probably Rule #3.

Rule #1: Don't try this (at least for the 1st time) by yourself. Try to find someone, preferably with experienc to assist you.

Rule #2: When you have a plan, and change it. Make certain that you review ALL of the steps you need to accomplish before you begin with the new plan.

For more information see here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113587

 

I've seen good used replacement 308 transaxles for between $2,500 and $4,000 on ebay and elsewhere. If it's $6,000+ to rebuild yours it might be cheaper and easier to get a good used transaxle and DIY the removal/installation. As a matter of fact, I have a good used transaxle myself that I would let go for $2,500.

Good luck!

 

Thats a lot of work to just replace one synchro... I'd rebuild the thing if you are that far in. Or at least negotiate the cost of going that far out of the price of the car then kick in the extra to finish the rebuild.

They are probably more similar to the FIAT gearboxes you've been into than you might think. If you are comfortable rebuilding FIAT gearboxes, you can work on this one.

I had my motor and trans out and separated. A buddy's brother (also TR owner) drives from SoCal to Washington State on a regular basis so I had him haul my trans to LA (BMW, not TR) to Franchorchamps. So I didn't pay any R&R, it was all my labor pulling the motor/trans. I didn't pay any shipping. Rod went through my gearbox, replaced all the synchros, 1 gear, bearings. He sent it back with the new ring nuts for the rest of the reassembly, o-rings and new drain plugs - $2300

Rick

 

That's not to bad Rick.

It depends i guess how lucky you are. Meaning if you get a used one. But then again you should take that used one apart also to make sure it's up to standards.

I also went thru this process too.

And like many here, David Driver, Rick Ramosel, myself, sometimes the unexpected comes around and things get.........lets say put on the back burner for awhile.

 

I had the gearbox rebuilt on my 208 GT4. It worked out at about 30 hours labour by a good Ferrari specialist. If you're spending all that money/time to take it to bits, it makes sense to replace anything that is worn out of spec. The synchromesh rings do wear, and $500 each is about right. Although there are 5 of them, the lower gears get the most wear so it's unlikely you'll need to replace all of them.

 

Typically, you don't repair a transmission. You just rebuild the whole thing. Otherwise, it is inviting bad karma. Bearings are quite expensive now. What you can do is to buy a core transmission, strip both boxes down, pick the best set and put it back together. When you are done, you will have a box of left over gears and parts that you can then sell to recoup some of your costs.

Doing a gear box by yourself is not really for the faint of heart. There are a few of the special tools that you can make, or borrow to get the job done.