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Chassis - what from?

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  1. theowinstone

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  3. tongascrew

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    You may get a lot of opinions but here is one. The back end with the rails sloping up over where the rear axle would be and the two cross members one over the rear axle location and the other maybe 18 inches behind it look possibly CILCO Ferrari. The two main rails appear to be oval, not round.Again possibly GILCO.However the center bracing betwen the two main rails does not have the typical GILCO X member. Nore does it have the outside body support members.This chassis could of course be for a mono posto car.. The front cross member with the dip in the middle does not agree with straight across and lighter GILCO member. A c/n number on the Ferrar chassis is usually stamped on an upper front cross member. This cross member does not seem to exist. You will get guestions about other details such as the front and rear suspension pickup points etc. etc. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  4. geffen365gtc/4

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    Looks like a 1969 Chevelle to me ;-)

    Geffen
     
  5. buurman

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    330GT or very late GTE.
    Ferrarichassis for sure

    C.
     
  6. theowinstone

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    Thanks for this info guys.

    I am at uni at the moment but will be home on the weekend to look for the VIN.

    Thanks again

    Theo
     
  7. BigTex

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    Check the Venezuela thread, there are tons of frame VIN pics in that one..
     
  8. topolino

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    Front cross member and gearbox support are much later . I think + - 1963-or 1964.

    Regards

    Hein
     
  9. theowinstone

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  11. theowinstone

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    Exotic, tasteful and jewel-like 4 door saloon.

    Love ,em!

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  13. Vintage47

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    It looks like a 330 America or 330GT 2+2 chassis.
    The reason I say it is not 250GT is that the front motor mount attachment points have two bolt holes. The 330 four mount motors were mounted with an extra plate attached with two bolts like that and it reached to the regular single bolt Silentbloc mount on the engine block. I'm not sure if later 250 2+2's had that arrangement, but I don't think they did. One way to tell if the chassis carried a 330 or 250 engine would be to measure the distance between the front and rear mounting points. The 330 four mount engines are approximately 14 and 1/2 inches on centers front to back and the 250's are approx. 17 and 3/4 inches.
    Now as to the question of 330 America or 330GT 2+2: Attempt to determine the wheelbase.
    330GT 2+2's had a 2650 MM wheelbase and 250GT 2+2's and 330 Americas (which were built on the last 50 250GT 2+2 chassis, but with the 330 engines) had a 2600 MM wheelbase. That is a 2 inch difference. I hope this helps.
     
  14. tongascrew

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    If this is an early 1960s Ferrari 250 GT chassis this is outside my area but hear is what I can tell you The front cross member is similar to that of a 250 Lusso as is the rear end layout. The Lusso chassis also does not have the center tube X support like this one However there should be evidence of there having been substantial tubular frame sections for and aft outside the main frame rails to support the body work. This is an intergral part of the Lusso chassis and the 250 PF and GTE chassis. I am sure the experts on these cars can help you. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  15. Motob

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    I would have to agree, the 250 GTE has front engine mounting brackets with a single hole and a spacers welded to them. Only the 330 America and 330 GT 2+2 have the two hole brackets on the frame with the additional triangular mounting brackets that connect to the motor mounts.

    The 330 America has a single circuit braking system with a proportioning cylinder that is mounted on the front crossmember, but this chassis doesn't have the mount for a cylinder, only a stud welded for a three-way tee.

    The 330 GT 2+2 has a dual circuit master cylinder without the proportioning cylinder.

    So I would say that this chassis is from a 330 GT 2+2.

    Brian B.
     
  16. Motob

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    My guess is that the driveline and chassis number plate and tag were used to made a replica (GTO, 250 Testarossa). The original numberplate was removed from the 330GT 2+2 frame and used on the new replica frame, and the new car retained the original title.
     
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