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Anyone know the Scud superfast 2 shift algorithm?

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  1. Stevely

    Stevely Formula Junior

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    #1 Stevely, Mar 29, 2013
    Curious if anyone might have a chart or specs on when the scud does the superfast shifting versus the regular slow shifting. I figure it has something to do with pedal depression/engine strain. Does it directly correlate with the valve open and close algorithm?

    Curious because I don't think I remember mine doing a superfast shift between 1st and 2nd gear. But it does it between 2nd and 3rd and up.
     
  2. dbonvillain

    dbonvillain Formula Junior

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    #2 dbonvillain, Mar 29, 2013
    well I have a friend reversing the actual algorithm from the TCU currently...but I think what your asking is when it's supposed to do it - and I believe it is documented in the manual as - race mode, over 5k rpm and over 50% throttle.
     
  3. DanS*

    DanS* Karting

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    #3 DanS*, Mar 30, 2013
    My Scud manual p.80 says:
    "... active only under the following conditions:
    -... SPORT, RACE, CT OFF,or SCT OFF;
    -engine at >5000 RPM and accelerator pedal at >40%;
    -no traction control;
    -engine water temperature >70C (158F)
    and engine oil temperature >15C (59F).
    A message on the multifunction display will inform the driver
    that F1-SuperFast 2 gearshifting is available."
     
  4. dbonvillain

    dbonvillain Formula Junior

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    #4 dbonvillain, Mar 30, 2013
    sounds right to me. Maybe the OP is not feeling it between 1&2 cause he's not warmed up yet? If I am doing the stuff above - it definitely does it in all gears
     
  5. Stevely

    Stevely Formula Junior

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    #5 Stevely, Mar 30, 2013
    Yeah, I don't remember it kicking in between 1st and 2nd. I will try again today and report back. Thanks for the info guys.
     
  6. DanS*

    DanS* Karting

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    #6 DanS*, Mar 30, 2013
    Steve,
    Scud will do it on the 1 - 2 shift, but it's rather violent (aka Scud Thud).
    Dan
     
  7. Bugsbunny

    Bugsbunny Rookie

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    #7 Bugsbunny, Mar 30, 2013
    Yes, exactly it does superfast shift if CST does not intervene which is very probable on 1st to 2nd gear change with lots of throttle!!
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #8 tazandjan, Mar 30, 2013
    I would want a lot more oil temperature than 15C for a minimum time shift. Should not even exceed 4000 rpm until the oil temp is up to normal.
     
  9. Stevely

    Stevely Formula Junior

    Jul 21, 2011
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    #9 Stevely, Mar 30, 2013
    I definitely warm it up. I think you're right that it might be traction control kicking in which is strange because the car hasn't lost traction before it shifts. I got my scud to do SF2 at moderate throttle in race from 1st to 2nd. Full throttle, it rarely does it in race. I turned CST off and I think it did it. It's hard to tell when your brain is at the back of your skull.

    Will have to try harder to pay attention next time.
     
  10. DanS*

    DanS* Karting

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    #10 DanS*, Mar 31, 2013
    The temperatures are just out of the manual and do reflect the conditions for my F1S symbol to display. I'd consider it abuse to use it, or revs over ~3,500 at that point. It takes my Scud quite a while for the engine oil to get hot (~175F). Water comes up to 200F quicker.
     

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