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Winter testing 2014

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  1. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    Their car looks nice. Neat livery and slimmer sidepods than the Caterham. This team may score points this year with Ferrari power. Best of luck to them
     
  2. MisterMaranello

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  3. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Well said. The first few races should be exciting and informative. I will try to reserve judgement about fuel etc until we have results.
     
  4. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1 yes agreed, at least the Hoover sound good IMO.
     
  5. piolaxo

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    Lessons for humbleness coming... I'm looking forward that too. It's easy to be at the top,
    now what happens when it's not so top anymore.
     
  6. Ferraripilot

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    I heard Nico saying to autosport live that everyone will be rethinking what years to take what corners. Hairpins that were first gear will be 3rd gear etc, due to the additional torque and having so many different ratios now.
     
  7. Ferraripilot

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    Kravitz tweeting a protest of Mclaren's rear suspension may happen soon.
     
  8. fiorano94

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  9. Ryan...

    Ryan... Karting

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    Goodness, that sounds like it's ready to explode at any moment!
     
  10. MisterMaranello

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  11. Alex1015

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    The problem with most aero measurements is frequently the measurement can effect the result leading to misinformation. The idea behind this rake is that it provides minimal interference. The data is collected at a constant speed, the height of the rake is adjusted and then it's done again. Rinse and repeat.

    Line by line it will then create a picture of what the velocity contours look like at that location.
     
  12. VIZSLA

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    Hey, just got in. Did I miss anything?
    ;)
     
  13. piolaxo

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    Nothing much, Red Bull sucks along all of their Renault fellow teams... The video
    above shows some nice Toro Rosso going...
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    Thanks.

    I'm wondering if all this season's drama will be before the first flag falls.
     
  15. MisterMaranello

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    Maybe its a stupid question, but I'm still curious;

    Do the teams have to comply with the engine and gearbox limitations during pre season testing, or can they swap engines and gearboxes as many times as they like without it affecting their season quota?
     
  16. ProCoach

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    Nope only five motors and gearboxes this year. Eight last year, IIRC.
     
  17. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Not a lot.... Horner & Newey went home in disgust. Seems they've got serious issues with heat. The other Renault boys are also struggling to do more than a few laps at a time, but not as bad as the Cans..... Merc power looks like the way to go, with Ferrari close behind. FWIW, Phil put in the second quickest time of the week so far. :)

    Preseason doesn't count. You can do whatever you want right now - blow the suckers up, mess with ratios, change 'boxes, even run underweight if you like......

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  18. MisterMaranello

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    Cool. Would be neat if one of the teams decided to see how much power the new powertrains could produce, just for the fun of it. If the car blows up after 2 laps, so be it. :)
     
  19. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Worth a read from Gary on testing so far...enjoy!

    Gary Anderson's verdict on day three of F1 testing at Jerez
    By Gary Anderson Thursday, January 30th 2014, 20:30 GMT

    Ex-Formula 1 designer Gary Anderson will be providing technical insight for AUTOSPORT throughout the 2014 season.

    At the end of the third day of winter testing at Jerez, he answered the key questions raised from what we have seen so far.

    The Ferrari F1 F14 T sounds a lot different to the other cars under braking. Why is this?

    It is incredibly smooth on the downchanges. Everyone else is blipping the throttle a lot more and it's difficult to say why the Ferrari is so smooth in comparison.

    All the cars have a zero torque loss upshift, seamless shift, but nobody has done that on the downshifts. With the ERS recharging from the rear wheels and the need to downchange under braking, it now might be a good idea.

    We don't know for sure, but perhaps Ferrari is ahead of the game with such technology.

    Mercedes had another strong day, with the second fastest time and most laps completed. It seems the Silver Arrows is the big winner after three days at Jerez?

    It's very impressive. Mercedes has managed long runs, hitting the 20-lap mark which is very good. It will take five-to-ten laps to build up all the temperatures and this length of run shows that the cooling is stabilised.

    Even if the car is getting too hot, it is at least controllable so it will be easy to adapt the cooling. After three days, Mercedes should be happy.

    Jerez F1 testing gallery

    The three Renault cars managed only 43 laps today. How disastrous has this test been?

    Renault has been in a real battle to solve a problem related to the ERS functions.

    It was felt the problem was fixable last night and it seemed progress had been made when Jean-Eric Vergne went out in the final hour and did a 1m29.915s lap at the end of a five-lap run.

    Unfortunately, on the sixth lap, it all fizzled out on the pit straight and when he tried to go out later on he didn't even make it out of the pit-lane.

    But the engine sounded much cleaner and it seems that Renault is at least making some progress even though there is a lot of work to do.


    Alarm bells ringing at Red Bull

    Red Bull completed a grand total of three laps today. Is this the end for its world championship hopes?

    I doubt it very, very much. There's nothing as resilient as an Adrian Newey who is very unhappy with life. Red Bull will sort itself out.

    We have seen problems for all the Renault teams and if any team has a background of understanding that the car needs to perform on the circuit is Red Bull.

    Losing these days of testing is not a good thing, but Red Bull is equipped to recover without hurting its championship hopes.

    Which cars have caught your eye from trackside?

    The McLaren seems to be a nice car to drive. The front end isn't exceptionally positive, but it looks well-balanced and changes direction well. There is no sign of the inherent understeer of 2013.

    The Ferrari looks like it is missing a bit of downforce. In the medium-to-high-speed corners, especially the one onto the back straight, you can hear a bit of tyre squeal and in the lower speed corners the rear is giving up on corner exit.

    With these turbo engines being quieter, you can now hear the tyres crying enough.

    The difference between Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso is that Fernando loves to leave big black lines on the track, primarily to make a point to the team about where the car needs improving.

    The Mercedes looks good, rides the kerbs well but does have a little understeer. Perhaps that is because it is set up to protect the rear tyres.

    The Mercedes-engined Williams looks good with Felipe Massa driving as it did with Valtteri Bottas.

    The front end is positive but not at the expense of the rear and in the middle of the chicane, the car changes direction well.

    What do you make of the new Marussia, which appeared for the first time this morning?


    Compliments to Marussia for driving out of the pits with a brand new car and being able to drive back, an impressive feat that many others struggled with!

    It's a neat and tidy design with an anteater nose, but it has more of a nose section than many others.

    It has elegant lines and there's nothing too dramatic so let's give the team time to get upgrades on the car before the first race.

    Gary Anderson's verdict on day three of F1 testing at Jerez - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
     
  20. NJB13

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    What I love about GA's article is that he fancies Merc and isn't impressed much with the F14-T. Last year at the first practice he fancied McLaren and was equally unimpressed by Red Bull

    Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk
     
  21. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Ive seen worse reviews and its really really early in the process. 10 reviewers will give you 10 different opinions no matter.

    Interesting to me about the tires noise rather apparent now.
     
  22. Far Out

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    Good morning everybody! I suppose Ferrari and Mercedes powered teams will continue the same way as yesterday. What the Renault teams do will be the exciting thing to see.
     
  23. Bas

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    No, only from Melbourne does the engine/gearbox rule kick in.
     
  24. MisterMaranello

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    Ricciardo has done 5 laps in the Red Bull so far this morning.
     
  25. Far Out

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    ROFL!
     

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