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Recommendation For Finishing Up Instrument Rating

Discussion in 'Aviation Chat' started by juliei, Mar 16, 2014.

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  1. alexm

    alexm F1 Veteran

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    #26 alexm, Mar 27, 2014
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    Sorry.. but really?

    A (rare) female member, pilot, and business owner and you come on and say THAT?

    As to the other "fight" now spread across 2 unrelated threads now.. can you guys duke it out in a dedicated thread maybe?

    It's not often I want to say these things and criticise other posts.. but I'd hoped for better in this section of the site at least.

    Edit: <snip> Done
     
  2. 88Testarossa

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    #27 88Testarossa, Mar 27, 2014
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    Oh oh
    I deleted the quoted text
    Sorry
     
  3. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    Omg what have I done. I've got to stop drinking during working hours. Please accept my sincere apology at this very immature post and please delete your post to eliminate all traces of my stupid stupid STUPIDITY on parade! It was dumb, immature, and so Andrew Dice Clay of me.....
     
  4. Jason Crandall

    Jason Crandall F1 Veteran

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    Ok. Well what do you guys want to talk about then?

    *crickets*
     
  5. 88Testarossa

    88Testarossa Formula 3

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    Quantum physics might make for an interesting change (smile)

    Maybe get a plasma physicist buddy of mine to join the fray? LOL

    Looks like you have a sense of humor



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  6. GaryC430

    GaryC430 Karting

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    Jas, I did what you did. Powered through ratings. I was lucky to have a laid off 15,000 hour Airbus captain as my mentor/instructor through four planes. In the end, they can't be with you on every approach to mins. You have to experience that on your own at some point, and we both have.
     
  7. dmark1

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    Sooooo, how the weather been in Atlanta..?
     
  8. Jason Crandall

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    My story about powering through wasn't about me thinking I'm a bad ass. I devoted the time to do it and got it done. It's not hard if you do it this way. I have friends that have been working on PPL for a year or more because they go once a week. You can't do this. I believe in "total immersion" if you want to learn something new

    The OP asked how to finish IFR rating after he's already done with the written..... Well hell, the worst is behind you. Take a few more lessons and do the check ride. This doesn't take a special school. That's the point I'm trying to make.

    I understand my response rubbed some folks the wrong the way. But I also understand lots of folks on Fchat are thin skinned. ;-)
     
  9. dmark1

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    WHAT, THIN SKINNED"???WHAT YOU MEAN THIN SKINNED???? IM NOT THIN SKINNED!!!!!!




    he he

    ;)
     
  10. 88Testarossa

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    Better explanation Jason. I do applaud you goal setting and persistence.
    You remind me of someone very close to me :)

    And we all know that the Internet isn't the best interpersonal communication tool around.
     
  11. ylshih

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    #36 ylshih, Mar 28, 2014
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    My personal experience with PIC was published here...

    IFR Cram Course Diary - AVweb Features Article

    I also got my PPL in about 6-8 weeks to my recollection (September to November 1996). I built hours in November to January and took the PIC course in February 1997. To get my PPL, I just flew daily for an hour or two and and I considered debrief an important part of the process. If you fly too long without break or debrief, I think you have a high chance of ingraining bad habits or reinforcing mistakes. The PIC course was more intense (4-6 hours per day of flying, interspersed with 2-3 breaks) than the PPL process, but I also highly valued the long experience that the PIC instructor brought, which included the assistance of dealing with an engine failure and return to airport after takeoff. Plus he had interesting stories to tell that a young kid wouldn't have. :)
     
  12. OldSlowpoke

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    Whether you are still training for the rating or want a way to practice cheaply to remain proficient after you earn the rating, you can get a lot of benefit from a good simulator. I have an Elite system, with an Elite Pro Panel SE for the yoke and power quadrant and an Elite Avionics Panel 3000 for the radio controls. Having knobs and buttons is much better than using the mouse on the screen to tune frequencies. I like my Elite system, but there are other good ones as well.

    You can program in such factors as turbulence, wind, instrument and engine failures, and actual destinations all over the country, in addition to ceiling and visibility appropriate to the approaches you want to practice. You can choose configurations for many common airplanes. They don't have an Aerostar, so on the sim I fly a Seneca. If you can fly the simulator well, you should do very well with the actual airplane.

    I agree with others on this thread that the instrument rating is a great advantage in making personal aviation practical. But I recommend tackling real IMC gradually. Start by setting personal minimums fairly high, and when you get comfortable with them, reduce them in small increments.

    There are a couple of publications that offer lots of good practical advice on IFR flying: IFR and IFR Refresher, both published by Belvoir Aviation Group.

    Good luck with the training, and be safe.

    Bill
     
  13. VS1

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    I used PIC back in 1997 to do my instrument rating. It was effective, but keep in mind it makes you competent. Proficiency comes with experience so the advice to set personal minimums is a very good one until you gain confidence in your proficiency level. Would I do it again, absolutely. It's a bit like getting a type rating, quick and intense.
     

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