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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by proof69, Sep 21, 2014.

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  1. forshage

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    I think the dated term is generally used wrong, and in some of these cases specifically. People are referring Iconic as dated. The reason Iconic cars seem dated is actually they define an era. Cars that come to mind are as someone mentioned finned Cadillacs ala Hank Williams, Magnums Ferrari and sonny Crockets Ferraris, Kit from Nightrider and the Mercedes from Dallas. In reality those aren't dated, they are iconic. AMC pacers and Gremlins are dated, as are pintos and Vegas (still can't believe there was a cosworth one). Plymouth satellites are dated. But the iconic, They are art defining an era.
     
  2. merstheman

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    Funny, in some cases I think certain aspects of a car's design make them seem "dated". A good example are the wheels on the yellow Diablo posted here, a few posts back. The Diablo's design itself is aging nicely, at least the raw coupé version of it (the ones with too many wings, or even the targa to me didn't age so well) but those wheels, there's just something that screams 90's opulence about them. And that will never change. The design on the classic Lamborghini Diablo wheels, from when the car first came out, has aged nicely but the evolutions not so much. The same can be said about the wheels on the 550 Barchetta. I love the design of the Ferrari 550, even if 10 years ago one might have called it "dated" too. But the raw design, first proposed and shown, has aged terribly well. The evolutions such as the triple headlights on the 575 and the speedline style wheels on the barchetta etc, have some elements that are exaggerated and - to me - seem very specific to that particular era.

    Other aspects like color (90's TVR mutating paint jobs are a great example), various trim accessories, mid-life facelifts (996 headlights for instance went from pure Boxter, to Turbo-style straight edged, before the 997. A rare improvement making the older ones more dated), and industry wide tech developments (first gen xenon headlamps etc..) are what "date" car design.

    The devil is in the details.
     
  3. Shark01

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    Agreed on the stock wheels, which were another derivation on a Countach design. Thats why I threw them aside for '01 6.0 wheels, which are my all-time favorite Lamborghini design.
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  4. WILLIAM H

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    That's what she said :)
     
  5. 4rePhill

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    As I've always understood the thinking behind the side strakes on the 348 and TestaRossa, they were actually added due to concerns about debris/rubbish/bags etc., being drawn into the intakes, collecting in front of the radiators and causing the engines to over heat.

    If anything, they were primarily about function rather than form. They remained on the Testarossa/512 series as it was a bit of a trademark for that model, and when the 355 came along, it was decided that the strakes were not needed after all and so were removed from the design.

    Had it been shown that the low side intakes on both cars did in fact collect debris/rubbish/bags etc., then I suspect that the intakes on the 355 would have looked somewhat different!
     
  6. bobzdar

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    The strakes are still inside the scoop, presumably to prevent things getting to the radiator so they didn't get rid of them altogether.
     
  7. vrsurgeon

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    Interesting about the strakes. Though I'm surprised some mesh wasn't used. Must have been thinking in the automotive world. Doesn't seem to prevent Bobcats and small animals from being sucked up. ;)
     
  8. bobzdar

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    I think the strakes added some benefit in terms of straightening the air so the radiators would get maximum airflow, which is why they're still inside the scoops of the 355. The challenge cars had a mesh cover over the strakes as well to protect them from puncture as the slicks picked up a lot more rocks and the cars would be closer together than you'd get on the street.
     
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    #34 msdesignltd, Sep 24, 2014
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    According to my recollection, The TR strakes are there to keep small children out.The same way we have to remove refrigerator and appliance doors here in the USA...so kids can not lock themselves in..
    Rubbish and debris can still enter at any point but now kids can not!
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    You're on a roll with your responses in this thread. :D
     
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    Yeah... just like it. I'll bet people stop you and ask you all the time "Is that a Gallant?"

    LaFerrari looks just like a Honda. :)
     
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    Given how fuggly many modern cars look I'm glad that mine's dated.
     
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    It it has sealed beam headlights, it looks dated.
     
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  18. 4rePhill

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    Yes, smaller pieces of rubbish and debris can still enter the intake, and over a period of time can build up and cause heating problems due to blocking the radiators up (Regular inspections of the intakes should take care of that though).

    However, something larger such as a stray carrier bag getting drawn into the side intake would cause a problem much faster! There would be a high risk of the engine temp climbing rapidly, getting overlooked and the engine getting damaged. The side strakes would help deflect such things away down the side of the car, reducing the risk of any possible mechanical failure.


    That's interesting!

    I've not had a proper look over a 355 so I wasn't aware that there were still some strakes inside the scoop - That alone disproves the theory that they are simply "form over function".
     
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    Always the problem with the 328. I ordered some Griot's Child Remover, which helps but doesn't solve the basic issue.
     
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    This made me laugh out loud!! :D
     
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    Not sure I understood this post completly
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  22. bpu699

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    The ferrari testarossa is certainly dated...

    So is the Mona Lisa...

    Michaelangelo's David...

    Andy Warhol...

    Geesh. We should burn them all...

    All replaced now by cellphone "Selfies."


    Just yesterday I was driving down the road, and a toyota tercel with two tattooed and pierced chicks pulled up to me. Tongue piercings, facial tattoo's, grungy hair... the whole bit. They loved the car :). That there, is the "youth stamp of approval" that the TR should do fine in the future.

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  23. opencollector

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    "Dated" is only pejorative if your objective is to appear modern. Modern isn't synonymous with "good" and "dated" isn't synonymous with "bad." By 1974, a classic Steve McQueen Bullitt Mustang was dated and the gruesome Mustang II was modern.

    If the Stanley Steamer look ever comes back into vogue, your favorite "timeless" design will appear - by definition - "dated."

    It's probably better to ask whether a design has aged well, which is really just another way of asking if we still like it.
     
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    Perhaps "dated" for the purpose of this discussion means a design that has not aged well, something not attractive even in the context of its time. An example might be those early 70s men's clothes with large collars and bell bottoms. In contrast, a dinner jacket from the period, even with the wider lapels, will still look good today. Another example might be those shoes with the very wide square toes, which nowadays look ridiculous.

    I hope I didn't offend anyone.
     

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