250 LM Hans Illert LM-P s/n 5899

Was it because the cost? I guess Porsche 906 bodies were available for ordering from Stuttgart while 250LM bodies were not orderable from Maranello. Here's a partial chronology

66 - remains of crashed stock bodied car went to Hans Illert, Feldmeilen, CH
who shortened chassis and fitted Porsche Carrera 6 bodywork
re-named Illert LM-P


68 - engine swapped with David Piper for a 330P-engine


69 - body destroyed in an accident

70/jan/07 - remains sold to Guenther Breyer, Vienna, A
7. - remains discovered by Paul Blancpain, Matran, CH
74/sep - remains to René Widmer, CH
76 - remains to Dr. Paul Schouwenburg, NL via Rob de la Rive Box
7. - original engine traded back from Piper
77/jun - Eric Stewart, UK - pop star, part of "10cc" pop duo buys the car
77 - recreated by Rosso Racing Ltd./Victor Norman with reportedly a new chassis.
I think it was about this time it got a new body of alloy 250LM style

So my question is: back in '77 when Dr. Schouwenburg had it, how much would an alloy body
have cost to create then? I am guessing $20,000 or am I way off. Maybe the car underneath wasn't worth that re-bodying expense at that time?

Or how much do you think Rosso Racing Ltd. charged?

And now (cue dramatic music) for the modern price estimate, how much would creating a new alloy 250LM body cost today?
I am guessing $200K

 

Yes, and compare that cost against the value then; maybe $30,000 to $40,000. I remember that about that time I had 5 interesting Ferraris, including a 500 Mondial, a 225 Vignale, and a 166MM S2, and was looking for about $25K each.

 

I can remember sometime in the late 1950s I was at school near Thompson. The Ben Grosvenor Inn right across the street was a popular place for those and there cars racing at Thompson.We set up a makeshift Mille Miglia checkpoint across the road. Wish I had pictures. Lots of great machines including Ferraris passed thru. tongascrew

 

Got lost in the chronology. I know Erik Stewart had the car restored
but what car was he in when he crashed hard? Was it another Ferrari?
On Wikipedia sad to read that when he came back to music, the trends had passed him by

 

Any pictures of it at Weerbergrennen, a hillclimb?

 

1964 Ferrari 250 LM by Scaglietti | Arizona 2015 | RM Sotheby's

Maybe that Swiss was in error, Seems like somthing too important to leave out

 

That Swiss is a certain Mr. Marcel Massini on page 136 in "Ferrari 250 LM", 1983, ISBN 0-85045-527-8

 

But here a Swiss comment from 1983:" ... sold to Paul Schouwenburg ... but (Schouwenburg) was still unable to restore the car, which was bought by pop singer Eric Stewart in June 1977, who had a new chassis built and the car restored by Rosso Ltd. ... ".

 

From Schouwenburg's book: Piper was supposed to restore the car but only removed the P-engine and sold it including the P-transmission which was in the car. This was not as Schouwenburg had agreed with Piper. Schouwenburg found an original 250 LM transmission in Piper’s workshop and took it in return. Piper did nothing else with the car over a period of months. Schouwnburg came back home with the car and sold the project.

 

No issue at all. I just misunderstood the added bolting, because on my computer the link still works. However, during the Eric Stewart/Vic Norman renewal 1977-81 the car or parts of it were not with Assistenza Clienti or Vaccari.

 

Yes, this is also my understanding. Interestingly, after the project was sold to Eric Stewart, Piper got involved again and delivered Vic Norman/Rosso Ltd. a new chassis for the renewal.