Sic DrS on 'em!
Someone should ask the seller if there has been any paint work done and if has ever been in an accident?
How can it possibly have a clean carfax report??? It must have to do with the delay from which the insurance company reports it to carfax. Post the vin# and it will at least show up in a google search if a prospective buyer searches it. I hate freakin people like this. There is another guy over in Ohio who is selling a 348 that was out in CA 6 months ago at a Merc dealer in Long Beach (ebay) and was disclosed in that listing as a salvage title, I have a hard copy of the carfax myself (stating salvage) and the guy continues to list it as clean title...
Someone needs to contact the Colorado Motor Vehicle Division Dealer Licensing unit with the seller's plate number and report it. One of the pics clearly shows the dealer plate on the back. I believe this falls under fraud....no?
This is absolutely outrageous. Should be against the law. No problem with salvage vehicles or prices high or low. But I have a problem with Fraud. Plain and simple. Go get 'em. Robb
Well it just proves what many said and thought about this car, it would be an easy fix to make right again. It does look like whoever worked on it did a good job but it should be sold for what it is, a salvage title car. And car dealers wonder why they have the rep they do, this is a glaring example.
I wonder if they addressed the leak that developed at the front of the engine after the accident. Suppose they dropped the cradle and fixed that?
Pretty sure it is against the law. Any car with a salvage title is suposed to be inspected via the DMV before it can get a new title which will be then "branded". The seller may have only bought the car from auction and fixed it up and have yet tried to title/register it or...??? There is no question the car was damaged, but beyond that do we actually know what the insurance company did and or classified the car as later in the process?
The seller should sue the CO DMV and insurance company for salvage fraud to get thetitle reinstated. Then they can sell it fairly as advertised. I know an attorney who will do this. BIG J/K
How is the seller a victim here. Based on the time of the original accident, the long process of dealing with insurance and then repairs, I think most people here are assuming (perhaps wrongly) that the seller is the party who purchased the vehicle from the insurance company/auction, repaired it and is now selling it... at least that's what I'm assuming. It seems like they are trying to fix it flip it and get it sold before the paper trail of the accident shows up on carfax...pure speculation on my part
I don't know how they do this. I am a dealer and it pisses me off to see things like this. Last spring there was a 94 348 spider on copart and the title was a ny 907a and to add to that it was marked " for parts only " . That car can not ever be titled , not even if branded salvage. The car was a Sandy flood car from nj. The car sold on copart , a New Hampshire dealer bought it , did nothing to it , listed it on Ebay as a flood car , made no statements as to running condition ( which it did not run ) but they stated " the buyer will receive a clear New Hampshire title" . I don't know how they did that and I've been wondering how that buyer made out.
There is some "fine print' on the copart site in which it states that certain cars will come with differing sets of papers depending on who the buyer is. If you are a registered dealer of some level/classification with them on some cars you get paperwork which will allow you to obtain a clear title. If you are a regular person buying through a copart broker you will not get the same paperwork. There are obvioulsy rules and loopholes that us laypeople are unaware of. The only recourse we have is watching cars like this and bring them to th attention of as many people as possible in the hopes that at least some potnetial buyers find the truth.
It is entirely too easy to get a clear title on a car like this... just takes a little gaming of the system as noted above. Even companies like Carfax can miss stuff like this, with Ferrari's it's relatively easy to avoid getting gamed too badly if you ask around.
It's back up for sale. I asked the dealer about the accident and he said he didn't know anything about that.... 1990 Ferrari - 303-547-06302110 S.Holly StDenver,CO 80222
Well, that's interesting because if I have the story right, he was the one who repaired the car. He bought it when it was offered by the insurance company. I could be wrong about that but that's the story I heard from another dealer that was offered the car in wrecked condition. Regardless, I have no idea how he could "not know."
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I contacted him and was interested in possibly buying the car. I mentioned the wreck and that I could send some photos of it. He gave me his email and then this is what I got back: --------------- its not salvaged first of all i already told u that and i didnt ask for those pictures, and if those pictures look like frame damage to you than i am blind
