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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by rmitchell248, Jul 11, 2015.

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  1. rmitchell248

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    #151 rmitchell248, Jul 13, 2015
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    and when there is really too much traffic, this is only 50 minutes from home.
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    #153 alfran, Jul 13, 2015
    To RMitchell 248
    Re. New test of the car.
    I am glad that now the issue of the soft suspensions has been resolved. But what about the rev limiter at 7500 RPM. Did someone explain to you what is going on?
     
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    #154 spyderman, Jul 13, 2015
    Rmitchell,

    Thank you for your wonderful and detailed review of your drive in the 488 and the comparison between the 488 and the 458.

    In reading your review it felt like I was there with you… Well written and informative.

    In seeing the video of the 458 being driven on the track behind a white 458 speciale...I was surprised to see that the car was not noticeablity quicker. I understand that different driving skills may be the case here but there were areas were both cars were accelerating in a straight line and the speciale was not that much quicker.

    We all can agree that speed is not everything with the Ferrari but if you had a chance to pick up your dealers last 458 speciale...would you?
     
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    #155 qwertstnbir, Jul 13, 2015
    70-90% customers would buy slower primitive NA, at the end of the day Ferrari would realise that turbo option is unprofitable and next generation would not have two engine option :D
     
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    #156 Cmazza, Jul 13, 2015
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    "70-90% customers would buy slower primitive NA, at the end of the day Ferrari would realise that turbo option is unprofitable and next generation would not have two engine option "

    I would bet that a good percent of customers would choose a new 488 with full warranty and improved performance over buying /keeping an out or near out of warranty 458 simply based on the N/A engine sound differential.
     
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    #157 qwertstnbir, Jul 13, 2015
    I was talking about two engine option for 488, not 488 vs 458
     
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    #158 911C4S, Jul 13, 2015
    no front lift?
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    #159 Cmazza, Jul 13, 2015
    I believe if you want AFS headlights, you need to get front lift as well
     
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    #160 mik458spider, Jul 13, 2015
    Most customers in Asian countries will pick the turbo, because it's much cheaper from the tax. It could be 20% cheaper. But for countries with same tax, I think 90% will buy NA.
    Actually this way is good, they are doing this with Maserati. It's like last time F-cars being offered with manual or F1, now turbo or NA.
     
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    #161 rmitchell248, Jul 13, 2015

    I've never used the lifter on my 458 aside from my son activating it when he's playing in the car. On the FF I use it weekly. I don't think I need the lifter but may end up with it we will see.
     
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    #162 qwertstnbir, Jul 13, 2015
    488 will be successful, maybe not as much as 458 but still good, only thing that could hurt Ferrari would be competitive Porsche with central based NA engine from 918, also small numbers of customers disappointed with 488 will move to Huracan, R8 and Ferrari V12 models but that will not have big impact
     
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    #163 rmitchell248, Jul 13, 2015

    It's the other way around. If you want the lifter you have to take the AFS.
     
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    #164 jomana, Jul 13, 2015
    Nope.
     
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    #165 DK308, Jul 13, 2015
    Very nice review.

    Curious about one thing. How do you compare the throttle modulation/sensitivvity of the 488 to the 458. I'm not talking response, boost threshold or turbo lag etc. I mean, how sensitive is it? I've always found the 458 Italia/Spider to be on the very sensitive and aggressive side of things.

    Are you going with the new metallic Rosso Corsa or just the normal one?
     
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    #166 911C4S, Jul 13, 2015
    i don't use it on my 458 either but i think the lower part of the 488's front spoiler is closer to the ground than the front part of the 458. i'd rather do without the it but not sure.
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    #167 rmitchell248, Jul 13, 2015

    I think that the twitchy feeling is gone. I recall hitting a series of bumps in the road in the 458 and the bouncing causing my foot to pulsate the throttle making the car jerk very slightly.

    This seems to be gone which some people will regret as it could be seen as a function of instant throttle response.
     
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    #168 Cmazza, Jul 13, 2015
    rmitchell,
    Very Appreciative of your review/experience with the 488. How did the 488 look in white? I currently own a titanium spider and was considering white for my next color. I have to say that the 488 shows well in the grays in pics I have seen thus far.
     
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    #169 DK308, Jul 13, 2015
    True. But I don't see it as an instant throttle, just a very sensitive one that is difficult to modulate. The Speciale by comparison, and I've only driven a Speciale a few times, had a throttle that felt much more steady, precise and easy to modulate. I definitely see it as a plus if they have gotten rid of that overly sensitive pedal. Like you, I've encountered instances of jerky driving due to this. I've never been in any Ferrari that did this as much as the Italia and Spider.
     
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    #171 Caeruleus11, Jul 13, 2015
    rmitchell248,
    Thank you for the excellent post and very informative thread. I really enjoyed reading your and others impressions of the 488.

    I think the simple answer is if someone loves the 458 more, good news, there are 458s out there. On the other hand, the 488 is the way forward and it will get better from here. Seems to me they did a very good job with the car.
     
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    #172 rmitchell248, Jul 13, 2015

    Honestly I did not care for the white. Too creamy. Bianco Italia Would be perfect though. The grays are some of the best liking colors I've seen too.
     
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    #173 rmitchell248, Jul 13, 2015

    I think you'll be happy with this change then. Response is there but modulation is smoother than the 458.
     
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    #174 bobbyd, Jul 14, 2015
    Great spec for 488...

    Only bad thing is it'll cost a fortune, much more than my Speciale...

    Ferrari really has mastered the art of extracting ever more money from their wealthy clients!!
     
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    #175 rmitchell248, Jul 14, 2015
    yes, they make sure to have a pretty big optical difference between their base parts and their overpriced options..... A lot of the carbon I am sure you could buy aftermarket but how long will it take to get? How much of a pain will install be? It ends up being easier to give Ferrari the money and be done with it.
     
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