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Official 308 GTB/GTS Market Thread

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  1. scudF1

    scudF1 F1 Rookie
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    How long ago? year? miles? condition?
     
  2. piezo

    piezo Formula 3

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    That's the price 5-6 years ago! You got a steal :D
     
  3. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    3 years ago, 25,000 miles. I'd say a condition 2 (might be lower). Body is real nice, car is clean, some mild fraying of carpet by the hood release.

    It was certainly worth about $40K when I purchased it (in my opinion). It was previously owned by another F-Chatter (PhilB), and he took incredible care of the car.
     
  4. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    #1579 nerofer, Nov 19, 2015
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  5. rob

    rob F1 Rookie

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    I'd say the 65-85k range.
     
  6. cnpapa24

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    #1581 cnpapa24, Nov 22, 2015
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    Can anyone update on current dry sump GTB prices in Europe for a condition 2 and 3 car?
     
  7. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    The true answer is that no-one really knows, prices vary a lot, and furthermore the actual price of the sale is very often unknown...

    Rgds
     
  8. greg 19425

    greg 19425 Formula 3

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    Good answer Nerofer. How are you doing with all that's going on in your Country?
     
  9. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    Hi Greg,

    Big shock of course, kind of nightmare, but we are coping. We must cope, as we love the kind of life we have, so the worst thing would be yelding and begining to change our way of life; the historic motto of the city of Paris has always been, and still is: "fluctuat nec mergitur", which means: "I bend, but I don't break"...

    Back to the price of dry sump GTBs (steel or glass): the truth is simply that the rise in prices of the last months has been so rapid that you see almost any price between 80 and 160.000 euros for a dry sump carbed STEEL car, and there does not seem to be an "accepted average value" for the time being.
    The value of these cars is simply: "what someone is ready to pay for it". We need some kind of "soft landing" of the market, to know what an average value is. Most asked prices are very high, but I'm not convinced that many cars actually sell for these prices.
    And as we are talking of cars that are now 40 years old, what really matters is Condition, Condition, Condition: originality on one hand...and what kind of restauration work has already been done on the car on the other.
    Really, a very difficult question to answer.

    Rgds
     
  10. 308 GTB QV

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    Can this milage really be correct? If so, then this is a really good price...It must be one of the strangest presentations of a 308 I have seen. I thought I was reading Wikipedia for a while. The potential buyer also get to know where the luggage compartment is, and it's the same place as on GTB, fantastic! :-D
    http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=218952250

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  11. Albert-LP

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    Correct!

    My drysump costed 50 k euro one year ago (october 2014), and it worked: at the end of the restore it will cost me almost 110 k euro (still not completed so I don't know, but it will be probably closer to 110 than to 100 k euro). So conditions (and originality) make a big difference on 35+ years old cars. And a pleasant color combo will make some difference too.

    ciao
     
  12. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    Well...there is a carbed 1980 308 GTS for sale in France with 35.000 kms for 165.000 euros, so make up your mind!
    If the 9.200 kms kilométrage (not mileage) is correct, then either the 99.000 euros price is wrong, or you should already be on your way to the Netherlands!

    9.200 kms for a 40 years old car is an average of 250 kms per year...

    Rgds
     
  13. Albert-LP

    Albert-LP F1 Veteran
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    if it has 9200 km since new, he can ask 250 k...

    ciao
     
  14. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    That would also be my thoughts, and the best way to know is going/flying there as soon as possible, just to be sure: who knows, at 99 k, this would be the bargain of the year!

    Rgds
     
  15. Albert-LP

    Albert-LP F1 Veteran
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    Yes, 100% agree. But also a 9200 km car, if rusted, crashed and badly repaired, would need a 50-60 k euro restore to be shining like it deserves.

    So conditions are the most important thing for the value, imho. Of course if the 9200 km car is mint and 100% original, 200+ k euro is the correct price, today. Here a white one at 108 k euro disappeared from the ads in a week, just some months ago.
    A rusted condition 3 one was sold to an Italian dealer at 110 k euro two months ago (and now he has to fix it and then to gain on the resale, so sale price will be in the 130-140 k euro range or even more)

    ciao
     
  16. 19055

    19055 Formula Junior

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    Well, Munsterhuis is an official dealer, for many years, they for shure know the market and don't give anything away for free. I don't want to judge/challenge the price of/for this car (I agree: no pics and only irrelevant info/description of the car), but expect to find a car that is (more or less) priced according to the current market. In other words you will get what you pay for..
     
  17. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    That makes sense, Emile. The price and the mileage are at odds...

    Rgds
     
  18. EMILIO

    EMILIO F1 Veteran

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    GTS in red are NOT the same as GTB in different color

    totally different markets.
    i think a GTB in not red color is worth 1.5 times or more a red GTS in same conditions-mileage
     
  19. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    Well...

    Ferrari 308 gts carter sec Voitures Paris - leboncoin.fr

    (note that the seller doesn't even know the type of engine that is in his car: he says "carter sec" - the french is about the same that italian, Emilio- which means "dry sump", and there are no GTS with dry sump...)

    Rgds
     
  20. 308 GTB QV

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    Munsterhuis also have a Ferrari 412 "daily driver" for €125k, so I don't feel confident that they are aware about the market.

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  21. tigermilk

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    Surprised no one mentioned this one - Ferrari 308 GTB | eBay

    Seller stated the engine may be damaged, it doesn't run, and selling as a project car. $45k
     
  22. 19055

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    It was. It is the "basket-case" car (thread) here in the 308 section !
     
  23. Martin308GTB

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    I strongly believe, that this is a hype which will soon settle down.

    Best Regards
    Martin
     
  24. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #1599 G. Pepper, Dec 3, 2015
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    Funnily enough, I got my silver '80 GTSi for $45K about eighteen months ago. Dealer told me when I took my 456M in for service a few weeks back that he'd ask nearly twice that for it today. I remember thinking when I bought it that it might be the last chance for an old school analog car. Sooooo glad I got it when I did.

    Cheers,

    George
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  25. godabitibi

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    Very nice car. I like the color.
     

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