F1 to manual

Wow is all I can say.

 

Agree. Wow. Another perfect example of where actual experience trumps perceived knowledge. The comment regarding the competency level at the dealership has some bearing. How many of today's younger techs actually know anything about diagnostics? I'll give you that F1 diagnostics can be challenging at times. But, with the proper equipment and an understanding of precisely how these systems work, they can be repaired. It may not be fast or inexpensive, but the outcome will be positive.

My congrats to you Sahal. You have tremendous patience.

 

I've been saying this from the start. I feel bad for the OP as he was spending good money with poor results....

 

I see the same pattern forming here, people who don't know how to work on the F1 system should just leave it alone!

If he hasn't got and SD2, how does he bleed it and how can he reset the clutch PIS setting, telling the ECU that the clutch plate has been replaced and there is 0% wear on the new clutch?

Very disappointing to hear and I hope you make a case against them and you have a win Cavallo.

 

If he can and does it all the time, why did you need to ship your car to another shop - that is what you should have asked him....

Very bad situation. Very sorry for you..

I'm due for fluid change in my F1 and no way in hell am I going to screw up my perfectly running F1 by not using an SD or equivalent.

 

+355

I agree also tired of the bad press. Mine is still on the original pump, replaced two lines that were leaking very little over the last 10 years. I know I coukd have fixed it for far less than this conversion cost the OP.

I also bottom car hard wih worn mounts and smashed the actuator, fixed the actuator bushing and all is fine.

Like all systems you must understand it or its like driving with no engine oil and ignoring the light.

Most people decide to not understand it and it bites them in th ass.

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, never change the F1 to a manual under any condition.

I only read up to post number 11. I'm not a lawyer but this is rather com sense. A job performed on a specific problem resulting in creating another problem, the customers have to prove otherwise. In this case it is the failure of the F1 system. Until a resolution is resolved, you, the customer should not alter the condition of the faied item in any way. By unilaterally changing out the F1 system, you, the customers have no way to prove the failure was due to the contracted party workmanship. Depending on states law and the amount of $$$ in question, you, the customers can sue the contracted party in small claim court without a lawyer. I caution depending on the state law, the defendant may counter sue you, the customer for lost time and lawyer fees if he has one representing him in the event you lost the case. I would seek advice further before acting

 

He is correct you can do it and I dont doubt he does it all the time.

He does it WRONG.

It can be done and a lot of us have done it. Then all of us that I know actually take it to a dealer and get them to set it up with the sd.

This is why are friggin F1s get a **** rap. It was said previously people who do not understand the system should keep their hands off it.

I hope you sue them and I hope you win. I would love to see a factory rep sit on the witness stand and tell these people they are not as smart as they think and now they have to pay.

Talk to Guido I recall he knows a good one. All I can say is FRACK.

 

I am no lawyer....but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night

Given that the car failed, and you did not give Reina a chance to make it right before ejecting to Continental, I suspect your recourse with Reina is limited.

And Tasz355 and others are correct. People dinking with the F1 system that do not understand it cause an awful lot of angst. In fact people dicking with the system that DO understand it cause problems too.

Lakeforest wanted $12k to fix mine. All it needed was a $200 system bleed. I wonder how many cars received the same treatment from Lakeforest only to have the owner curse & swear and write the check. Surely some showing up here posting about the $12,000 F1 repair they just had and the F1 system sucks.

Sadly something happened to the OP F1 system. Truth is it is a 20 year old design and is as basic a system as you can imagine. Easy stuff in today's world. Bit surprised Continental could not sort it all out.

 

In post 106 he gives a little more detail on the events and he said Reina had the car for a month after the F1 went out and couldn't fix it and they asked him if they could send it to Continental for diagnosis.

 

Ah.. I missed that part of the story.

 

Inthink there is a lot of F1 systems that are not working correcly because every time I take my car in the mechanics say hiw nice the F1 works compared to others.
I think mine works correctly, and many of us do not have a point of reference unless you have driven one that is setup right.

Its too bad so many are not setup correct because when they are they are nice.

 

sweet enjoy the manual transmission....

 

Glad you are pleased with the outcome. I see your HVAC panel is bubbling.....

As a show of support, send me an email with your address and I will send you an overlay on the house

 

Very cool you have it back and are very happy with it mate.

Hoping you enjoy the weekend driving it around.

 

Dave!! YOU ARE THE MAN!!!

How generous of you!