OK so let's say when you spent 88k your net worth was x. today some else's net worth is 3x and they pay 200k for a Diablo. why shld that person come on and listen to you call them a fool? what if they're worth 10x?
Diablo is a sick car. my SV is a very emotional experience. that's one car every ferrari owner shld have a chance to spend time with.
My wife who's a Model as if it matters really woke me up to Lamborghini especially the 12s our first date was in my 355 10 years ago she said she wasn't that impressed but would have quote **** her pants if I pulled up in a Diablo lol
Thank you (of all people ) for making my point! The fact is, anyone who has owned a car for a few years ought to be, as you so eloquently put it, "way ahead". Those that have owned cars for even longer are probably still ecstatic. The sky is not falling.
what is the cost to the those who have been preaching gloom and doom for F-car values... this thread is approaching 4 years... the intangible for having missed the opportunity of enjoying a f-car or any collectible for those years is immeasurable, that time cannot be recovered... as a bonus the value of f-cars has increased over the same period of time... who is getting the better bargain
I still remember Miuras for 60-100k just 10 years ago. Those days will never return. Just look at the threads on advertised prices in the 1970s-1980s, and you will realize that any dip, should it occur, is a buy in the long run. Anybody preaching a falling sky is very likely looking to buy.
Just a thought but with the worldwide move to electric, autonomous and fuel cell vehicles what is the possibility that driver operated petroleum based vehicles will be outlawed for public road use? I know a bunch of 20 somethings in NY and CA feel that way.
All these cars except a few will be going to museums and limited collections never to see the roads again. Granted it will take a generation or two.
i'm curious along these same lines. at what point will the pc 'police' and enviro agencies start to come down hard on 'old relics' that continue to hurt the environment and contribute to climate change (what happened to 'global warning'). the younger generations [seem to] have a much different view than X'ers - like myself.
Agree. At least in the relevant future (<50 years). Will just take the next recession to push back those trends another 20 years anyways.
I think what will be outlawed is cars without V2V, which I suppose can be retrofitted. Then they will outlaw human drive cars as they will be too eratic and confusing to the auto drive cars. The demise of what we love will not come about from electrification, but from automation. The great cars will get to live on a country club car driving ranches, replete with samll highway sections, race tracks, rural lanes, drive in movies diners etc. People will go there to drive their gas powered human controlled car and recreate. Sort of an adult auto disney park.
The EPA killed two-stoke motorcycles, even though the amount of pollution emitted was so small compared to everything else.
If you have a nice example with impeccable provenance, the top numbers are still pretty much the same, it just takes a little longer to find your buyer, thats's all.
The other thing is that if your car is actually down 30% and you are all bent out of shape then you either bought for the wrong reasons or stretched financially. 30% shouldn't matter if it's a car you love and really wanted...
totally agree. I'm curious as to what's down 30 percent. 94 512tr? 98 Diablo sv? anniversary countach? 612 OTO? CS? 456MGTA? 95 355?
As you know I operate in the world of 288 GTO/F40/F50/Enzo, and considering recent GTO and F50 deals, I can't say they are down off recent auction results at all. Now the more prolifically-produced models are another matter.
You will be. It will be a political impossibility for a very long time at least in the US. There are a lot of people on the road that have no business driving and it is a political impossibility to remove them from the drivers seat. The old and the poor have huge political clout in the US and many will be unable or unwilling to get a new fangled electric driverless car. Until the last generation of those people die off that have a gas, human operated car they will be allowed to stay.
