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Correct wheels for a 1975 Dino 308 GT4

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  1. kepa75

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    #1 kepa75, Nov 21, 2016
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    Hello to everybody!

    I'm new here and this is my first post. I'm based in Italy and are helping a friend of mine with his 1975 Dino 308 GT4 restoration.

    I've been searching around the forum a bit, but couldn't find an answer to this question: which wheels are correct for a 1975 Dino 308 GT4?

    Should it look on the b/w picture attached or like the yellow car?

    Thanks,

    Peter
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  2. Mike Florio

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    The wheels look the same and correct for a '75 to me. The difference is the hubcaps. The B&W car seems to have the correct hubcaps, but they are missing the "Dino" plastic emblem in the center. The yellow car looks to have only hub covers and chrome bolts, both are incorrect.

    --My opinion, I might be wrong.
     
  3. kepa75

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    Well, the main question is actually: should they have wheelcaps or not, and should it say "Dino" or "Ferrari" on the wheels??

    Thanks,

    Peter
     
  4. Patrick Dixon

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    I'd agree with Mike except that I think the yellow car has the 'series 2' Ferrari badged look rather than the 'series 1' Dino hubcaps. The later cars had the same five-spoke style wheels as the GTB/GTS. I am not sure that the yellow car's black painted centres are correct though.

    So for a 1975 car, those wheels with the hubcaps (like the car in the B&W photo) are correct I think.

    My 76 series 2 car has the Dino wheels without hubcaps but with the Ferrari hub centres and no black paint, or at least it did until I fitted 16" Compomotive split rims.
     
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    #5 davidgt4, Nov 21, 2016
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    Hi and welcome
    This is a shot of my '75 GT4, before I started messing around with it... reminds me how elegant it used to look! Anyway it shows correct early Series 1 wheels - 14" Cromodoras with hubcaps with Dino script.
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  6. GT4 Joe

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    All three are correct.
    The black and white photo is at a distance and a little blurry, but looks like it may have the Dino badges, just can't tell. Maybe they fell off (as they did with age) and the owner left them off.
    The yellow right hand drive car has the less frequently seen wheels, very common on Australian and British versions, but not exclusive to RHD cars, they are also seen on other Euro GT4's. As far as black painted centers? May be a shadow or owners touch added.
    The red car is the most common version we see here in the USA, an extension of the 246 wheel with the "dog dish" caps and Dino badge.
     
  7. kepa75

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    Thanks to everybody so far!

    The 308 GT4 in restoration seems to be a first series (first on road in September 1975, so probably build mid 1975). It should be an Italian car.
    I understand that it should be Dino badged, this is clear.
    But still I'm surprised that there is no way to tell exactly which wheels it had out of the factory? With or without hubcaps?

    Ciao,

    Peter
     
  8. Patrick Dixon

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    All the photos on this page are the same wheels. Those are the wheels you are looking for.

    Some are stamped Dino and some Ferrari I think, but they are the same pattern.
     
  9. kepa75

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    #9 kepa75, Nov 22, 2016
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    They might be similar, but not the same to me. AFAIK there is a difference between the wheels with and the ones without hubcaps (see pictures attached).

    I agree that technically all fit, but we need new wheels and want to spend the money just on 100% correct ones for MY75.

    Ciao,

    Peter
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  10. Mike Florio

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    My GT4 is also a mid-1975 car, S/N 10446, and came from the factory with Dino-badged hubcaps.
     
  11. BigTex

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    This is correct for the early cars, that were badged as Dinos.

    Only after the Factory changed to the Ferrari Logo did they change to the later wheels, shared with the early GTBs????

    Big question marks, as I am unsure of the time of the change....
     
  12. BigTex

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    Wheel on the right has the raised boss in center for a horsie style center cap.
    There are 75-77 GTBs out there with those wheels.

    I think one on left, with the 'dog dish' hubcaps, (Dino logo) would be for an early car?
     
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    FerrParts has a set of four on eBay now, and there is an older set of five, from another seller, that looks very nice.
     
  14. kaliforniakid

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    Peter- welcome first off.

    There are many on here that know far more than I. Maybe Al who has restored a few beautiful gt4's here in the US can drop some knowledge.

    There was a period where Ferrari was using slightly different 14" wheels that were Cromodora. This was as they transitioned from the 246 to the 308. If you look inside the wheel they are date stamped. I have a set of 4 wheels that are date stamped 1971 that came of a 75 gt4 (presumably meant for a 246), and a set of 4 date stamped 1975 that also came off a 1975 gt4. The dish wheel is more correct but again others may dispute this depending on which country that car may have been headed towards. I have seen 246 dino's with both the dish wheel and smaller hubcap wheel as well.
     
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    I know many of you will think the 14" Cromodora's are the correct wheel, but apparently at the time my car (SN 10764) was built, you could order the star wheels as an option. I have a factory document that provides all the options for my car and 7 1/2" Star Wheels is listed on my document that I have from the factory.
     
  17. Patrick Dixon

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    I didn't realise that the Dino hubcap wheel centres were a different casting.

    The five spokes ones on 10764 are later I think; that style arrived with the GTB and was fitted to the later series 2 gt4s. But I guess that things might have been swapped around when Dino cars were rebadged as Ferrari.

    My UK delivered 1976 car (12842) had the non-hubcap Dino style wheels, and there is no evidence that the nose badge was ever changed so I guess it came out of the factory as a Ferrari.
     
  18. Patrick Dixon

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    That's interesting - does it have a date?
     
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    Hard to argue with that! Star wheels were first available on the 365GTB/4 (I think) which pre-dated the GT4 so it would make sense.
     
  22. Patrick Dixon

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    9 Jan 1976. That's really nice to have - I like that it says "FERRARI" Model Dino 308/GT4 ... with the Ferrari bit in quotes!
     
  23. gbutler

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    Yes, that is the original factory invoice. Car was sold new by Algar (Chinetti-Garthwaite Imports). I also have the "Certificate of Origin" as well, along with some other cool original items that let me know the entire history of my GT4.
     
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    #24 WazzaT, Nov 24, 2016
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    Here's mine on my 74 GT4 I bought in 75 and still own. Dino badges are slightly smaller than the original ones that kept falling off under warranty. Waz.
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  25. kepa75

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    Thanks to all for the information!

    Ciao,

    Peter
     

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