Finally Shopping for 430 coupe

You've answered most of them yourself. Modern Ferraris are not different than any other performance cars, buy the best you can afford, do a PPI, stay on top of the maintenance.

 

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And use the search feature

 

OK Abe, I've owned my '05 since new but it is a stick. I can answer most of your questions.

Service by the book calls fluid and filter changes plus inspections annually. At 30K or 10 years, a big service is called for which includes more stuff such as spark plugs, accessory belts, etc. This is not very expensive for a Ferrari.

I would be more interested in condition and history than mileage and # of owners. This model is pretty bullet proof.

I have tracked mine, so I have replaced brakes. A set of pads installed was about 1000. last time I had them done. If a car is not tracked, I would expect the steel brakes to last a very long time.

I still have the original clutch at 27K. Since it is a manual, I can't get a readout. My understanding is that readouts are "ballpark" at best. F1 clutch life varies greatly depending on the driver and use. Low speed crawling up hill driveways is supposed to wear them pretty quick. Normal or even spirited driving shouldn't cause much wear.

I can't speak about the paddle car operations. Most people like them.

Dave

 

OK it is simply not sensible to suggest that these questions have not been asked before- do you think you are the first person to try to buy a 430 ?

Different people have different opinions so one answer may suggest a different clutch life to another

Similarly one man's tire life will be very different to another's and vary with brand and you will wear out rears more often than fronts

Some folk insist on no mileage and others know it can take 50 000 miles for a Ferrari engine to be fully run in - I'd try to see 2000 miles a year

Voicey may be English (!) but the information on his site is very useful https://aldousvoice.com/

And a tip for using search here is to make it as simple as possible - often just one word is best and restricting to thread title can help

 

I think number of owners, etc. doesn't really matter too much. It's all about the maintenance history of the vehicle.

Dan's video is a good start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEUlZ2-zrBA

Things I would look for:
ball joints/tie rods especially on an older car
which headers (manifolds) are on the car - aftermarket or original mk1/mk2
sticky buttons

if you do manage to test drive, you get a feel for the F1 gears by seeing how easily it drops into gear or if there's any slippage when setting off.

I tend to aim for the 20K mile mark in terms of used Ferraris from the 2000 era - used just enough to keep parts ticking over.

 

Not realistic, because a lot of what you'll find is opinion, not hard science.
For example, if you are looking for the definitive answer to your first question "how bad is the F1 trans...? You won't find it. There ar many very different experiences with these cars.
You have to do your own due diligence from reading lots of different opinions and decide what makes sense to you.

 

what year is the car? I paid $116 for a 9k mile 2007 optioned to the hilt with over 60% clutch and new tires

 

Price seems high in my opinion as well. Not sure what happened to the F430 market...maybe the 488 being turbo is driving the prices of the NA cars to hold / go up.

50% clutch if driven right throughout it's life doesn't seem too farfetched to me.

 

Hope this helps

 

I paid 98k for my 05' CCB coupe with 19k miles and 65% clutch.
Records were missing on mine, which dropped the price. PPI came back that it needed some items.. I had the money to fix them, so it wasnt a big deal.

 

Clutch job is only $5k? Are you sure? If so not too bad then.

 

Hope this helps

 

Closer to 6k, but it will usually be more because there's always small stuff here and there that you will want to take care of while the car is apart to that degree.


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Not something to prevent one from buying a F1.

 

Clutch kits from Ricambi is $3200 USD
https://www.ricambiamerica.com/f430ckit-f430-f1-clutch-combo.html
I cant imagine that its more than 10 hours labor to swap. Even at 150/ hour its under 5k.

 

The lowest # of hours I've been quoted for a clutch change is 16, usually the ranges are in the 24hr +

 

Wow... that is crazy... 12 hours to take it out and 12 hours to put it back....
What are these guys union? You should be able to rebuild 1/2 the car with that kinda time... LOL

 

I think you are right. My car had a rear main seal replaced under warranty which required R&R on the clutch. It was done in less than a day.

Dave