"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched sea beams glittering in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time. Like tears... in rain." Such is the lament of Roy Batty at the end of Blade Runner. In a parallel and very real way, due to the allocation of scarce economic resources... your statement is correct. In fact, you will be hard-pressed to find any links from 2004 Fchat that still work.
If HarperSimon is right, wouldn't it be a five minute job to see which body panels a magnet sticks to? I remember when lance Reventlow was tipped off a dealer had an alloy 300SL gullwing on the lot, he was eager to go see it and was told "bring a magnet." Or is the allegation the steel body panels were replaced sometime later with alloy? I would like to know why the last owner kept it hidden for 37 years and what circumstances led to its being retrieved and scheduled for auction? Did the last owner die?
12653 69/jun Ferrari 365 GTB/4, alloy Rosso Chiaro (20-R-190) over a Nero (VM 8500) Date Result Event Driver # Reference 69/sep - Motor S.p.A. di Carla Allegretti 69/oct - Luciano Conti, I (autosprint publisher) 70/sep - Guido Maran, Verona, I 70/oct - Carlo Ferruzzi, Ravenna, I 71/jul - ................, J 72/jan - featured in Car Graphic 75/may - Goro Guwa, Gifu, Japan 79/apr -Tateo Ito, Nagoya, J 80/... - Makoto Takai J 2017/sep/09 - RM Sotheby's Ferrari Leggenda e Passione Lot 126 - Est. 1.400.000 - 1.700.000
"Please note that after the auction, this car needs to remain in Maranello to complete the certification process." Does the above note at the end of the RM Sotheby's description of the car mean that bids are only accepted on the basis that the car be Classiche certified after the auction and that the winning bidder will be responsible for the cost of completing the certification process and all that entails such as remedying any non original specification or will it be the responsibility of the current owner?
Ferrari is gaining control of their classic heritage with one purpose... Profit! Suddenly they are interested in the heritage they neglected for decades. The worst part? They are ruining a market that kept their heritage alive and simply push them out of business. Solid cars with a good heritage don't need a certification, they are what they are with or without a red book!
Actually, the steering wheel does look correct. I may be wrong, but it is very similar to mine, 44319.
To me, the redeeming qualities of this piece are the alloy body and the photographs, which are breathtaking. Personally, I would not touch it with a ten foot pole. Time in one's life is the most valuable commodity, and I could see 12653 commanding a lot of it. It would definitely be a pure labor of love to bring it back to its glory days, thus wiping out its history. Can't wait to see the selling price and what the new owner creates of it.
Yes, it would be good to see what the new owner makes of it and other Ferrari barn finds. What happened to the ex Alain Delon 250 GT SWB California Spyder 2935GT after it was sold at auction in 2015?
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Though, latter may not be fully up to the new owner, as demonstrated by some one confirming my initial suspicions about prerequisite "Factory" post-sale certification, which may include (require ?) Classiche orchestrated restoration.
Here is the RM Sotheby's Marcel Massini video now on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLujj_1Z4j8
On a road going Daytona with everything else remaining standard construction, I'm guessing overall weight savings wouldn't be that significant. 100-200 lbs, if even that much.
Well produced video--always good to see gentleman Marcel. Can't wait to see the auction and am glad it isn't during the Clemson/Auburn game.
I wonder what the story is behind why this car, 12653, is the only standard specification road going alloy bodied Daytona built? Of the Daytona's predecessor, the 275 GTB, depending on which book you read, there were between 60 and 80 non competizione alloy road cars made so why only one alloy road Daytona? 6 alloy bodied Competizione Daytonas made too. 1 in 1969, 12547, and the other 5 in 1971. It doesn't sound like it was ordered by a customer as it's stated that it was for sale at a dealership for a month before being sold to its first owner. Nor does it sound like it was an experimental car. Does anyone know why it's the only one and if there is actually a reason for that????