Why I don't care about new Ferraris

i'll open this up dale and raise you one....

I don't care about new cars....

i don't need all this hi tech crap, drivers aids, etc.... they all distract from the purity of driving.

besides, it it just me or have new cars gone completely INSANE in pricing.

 

I didn't miss the point of the thread but every other which is better thread or I'm a stick shift guy or I'm a technology guy thread presents the same exact arguments. They all lead to the same arguments. Buy whatever makes you happy and enjoy! I wish I could afford a stick shift and paddle shift Ferrari honestly lol.

 

Pricing aside, they've gone insane on unusable potential performance. The feeling of getting that 3-2 shift right is wonderful, but matching and timing a good 4-2 (or especially a 5-2) into that tightish corner from a high speed is another level. In an odd way, I even enjoy traffic, if only for knowing the exact clutch engagement, rarely wishing I had an automatic.
Flicking a lever so a computer can do it for you, one foot on the gas and the other on the brake, just doesn't do that.

 

I know it's just an opinion, but I don't understand it. The 360 has a coherent design that grows above and below a wedge crease that goes from nose to tail. Everything is round and the design elements flow smoothly. The 458 has a two of what I consider to be conflicting arches on the sides. And the headlights are awful. The most awful part of the design. No way will I ever think a 458 is as pretty as my car, even when I get a 458. Same with the 612. It'll never move me like my 456M did.
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To each his own. If we all thought and liked the same cars we wouldn't have such a great variety to choose from.

If it was solely about performance, as many here sen to think, there are many better, cheaper options than Ferraris. Hell, I had a shifter kart that would outperform almost 90% of them and it only cost me 5k.

 

Ill be honest, it doesnt matter to me. A 355 has enough performance to satisfy me. I do wonder how many feel as I do but wont admit it for fear of being called a 'poseur'

 

You have a point.... I have a brand new 2017 488 spider, and never owned a Ferrari that was more than 7-8 years old, but I really loved the Testarosa (still do) and still remember my heart skipping a beat when seeing the 360 for the first time in Geneva in 1999. So, I do love the Dino, TR, 328, 355, even the 348, but I also love the feeling of the turbos on my 488.

So, perhaps not one or the other, but like Winnie the Poo said, when Rabbit asked if he wanted milk OR honey: he simply said "yes thanks!!!"..

 

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

... oh wait. I'm talking to myself again.

 

I'll tell you straight up that the 308 GTSi experience is more, "charming" than the 360 experience for exactly that reason. The 360 was delivered in the rain. I immediately took it out to examine the intervention. Wow. To really explore the 360, I'll have to take it to a track. Lucky for me, COTA is an hour away!

 

A 458 is the best looking Ferrari since the 355. To each their own I guess.

 

Well said.



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I'm still waiting for one of you guys to take my 308 in trade for your F1 430

 

Realistically, anything faster than 0-60 in 5 seconds is (IS) fast enough.
Anything that will top 150 MPH is (IS) fast enough.

 

Agree, with the last line especially. A three--pedal manual feels right in a 308, but anachronistic in a modern car. Same with carburetters -- great vintage sounds and smells, but inferior when it comes to performance.

I like the older cars, but having a 308/328 parked next to a 488 would solve all problems.

In any event, I would guess that in the not-too-distant future electric drivetrains will make the gearbox discussion a topic strictly for old men.

 

For a lot of us it isnt the performance that causes us to stick with newer cars, its the comfort and convenience. I love 308s but i am just too uncomfortable in them.

 

I know the feeling, actually. I'm 6'2" and am only comfortable in the 308 with the top off. Top on and I'm pretty cramped.

 

Luckily, I will never have this problem

 

What's the big deal about "loud"?

 

This part of the design just wreaks of "trend follower" and a big deviation from classy. IDK WTF they were thinking...not functional, not particularly pleasing by day. Maybe at night they look OK but it would take an idiot to not understand what the sun can do to piece of clear plastic over time. How cool is it going to be when these plastic strips are all cloudy and gross looking. Oh WOW, they sure looked neato when we pumped them off the assembly line! I don't get it. It's these kind of reveals that show a side to the plot that we probably shouldn't see if one wishes to remain a loyal fan. The rest of the design is pretty badass though, except that any high school girl could drive it since it isn't available in stick ;-)

 

I've had my share of manual and dct sports cars. I do miss having a manual but I don't miss the engine out services required just for clutch jobs on the older ferraris and lambos. Not only that but when I buy a used Ferrari I don't need to worry about how the last owner drove it as much because the dct is idiot proof and lasts the lifetime of the car.

For the cost of a clutch job i could prob pick up a used Cayman. Toyota frs. Or BMW m3 and row my own gears.

 

Doesn't have to necessarily be loud enough to be heard five miles away but a sports car should sound aggressive IMO. The sound adds to the overall experience as it relates to the cars racing DNA. It's like F1 without v12's, it sucks. Formula E blows because they sound like castrated blenders. Electric cars have their place but they will never be as sexy as a v12 or flat crank v8 at 8,000 rpm because they are such a sterile, soulless experience. It's like dating a Ellen Degeneres instead of Catrinel Menghia.

All of these little nuances combine to create the unique experience an exotic car should offer. You decide, Ellen or Catrinel.

 

My daily driver is a C5 Corvette convertible with manual trans. I sometimes do boy-racer on on/off ramps. I never thought I'd say this, but I find the shifting to be annoying now. Especially after riding in a Maserati GranTourismo and a Mercedes C63S. I would contemplate a DCT Fcar in a few years, but after the warranty period would not want to risk the failure of the speed sensor buried in the trans.