What next after the 458?

plastique999 · Feb 3, 2019

iloveferrari said: ↑

I agreed with 99.8% of what you said, except a small caveat. The color of 812... In certain colors, it really does not look good.... Like in yellow the nose is like a dolphin, but in grey color, it looks great. I think I still like the look of F12 better.
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To add the 0.2%,
F12 TDF, but I understand the price differential

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iloveferrari · Feb 3, 2019

plastique999 said: ↑

To add the 0.2%,
F12 TDF, but I understand the price differential

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Yes.

Motorwerks · Feb 3, 2019

So true...same experience here..

dustman said: ↑

It’s ok.

What I find so interesting is that in the F’s there’s a mix of thumbs up but a lot of FU from onlookers.
The Perf has been exclusively positive.
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dustman · Feb 3, 2019

RayJohns said: ↑

Just to toss my hat into the ring here...

Loved my 458 Italia. Best. car. ever. Best Ferrari ever. Never thought I could love another as I did my gated 6 speed 360, but then I fell in love even more with my 458 Italia - complete with its far too heavy electric heated seats.

Thought about going for the 458 Speciale, but as others have mentioned, it's a bit like buying the Italia all over again, sans all the comfort for a long drive.

Foolishly, I bought a 488 GTB. Blah. That made me miss my 458 twice as much as I was already missing it. As soon as humanly possible, I sold the 488. Okay, after driving it a bit, it started to grow on me somewhat. However, by no measure was it even close to the love affair I had had with my Italia.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the 458 Italia is, at least in my opinion, the best V8 Ferrari to ever come out of Italy. I think people who really appreciate what the 458 Italia brings to the table are going to have a very difficult time selling it and moving into another car and ending up being happy.

For me, based on where things currently stand, I think the only route forward [for me] is maybe the 812 Superfast. I've driven that car and based on my limited test drive, it seems to share the magic that the 458 Italia had in my eyes. If you are over 50 and looking to move up from the 458 into something else, that you can really fall in love with, I think probably the 812 Superfast is it. Either that or be smart and don't part with your 458 Italia just yet.

Ray
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Agree.
Careful, lots of owners spin their hate on the 458 crowd for some reason

arkone · Feb 3, 2019

plastique999 said: ↑

Perf is a great choice!
Yes I thought Perf orders were done now with the Evo coming out.
Get Verde Themis!!!
The Perf will remain special and a lot lower in production vs the Evo. Evo looks plain to me - they should have put the ALA rear wing on it!
Nice Perf for $290-300k is a bargain for that car.
Best of luck and keep us updated!

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If I go Verde Themis, your car is probably number 1 on the list cause I don't think there are any Verde Themis or Verde Scandals for sale! You're right about the EVO, sure it has AWS and bits and bobs from the Perf but it's a 610-4 replacement, not a Perf contender. Financially, I probably should wait until the fall since that will drop the Perf prices a bit more and gives me some runway time to make good decisions like making my SEP but let's face it. Perfomante > SEP IRA haha

RayJohns said: ↑

Just to toss my hat into the ring here...

Loved my 458 Italia. Best. car. ever. Best Ferrari ever. Never thought I could love another as I did my gated 6 speed 360, but then I fell in love even more with my 458 Italia - complete with its far too heavy electric heated seats.

Thought about going for the 458 Speciale, but as others have mentioned, it's a bit like buying the Italia all over again, sans all the comfort for a long drive.

Foolishly, I bought a 488 GTB. Blah. That made me miss my 458 twice as much as I was already missing it. As soon as humanly possible, I sold the 488. Okay, after driving it a bit, it started to grow on me somewhat. However, by no measure was it even close to the love affair I had had with my Italia.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the 458 Italia is, at least in my opinion, the best V8 Ferrari to ever come out of Italy. I think people who really appreciate what the 458 Italia brings to the table are going to have a very difficult time selling it and moving into another car and ending up being happy.

For me, based on where things currently stand, I think the only route forward [for me] is maybe the 812 Superfast. I've driven that car and based on my limited test drive, it seems to share the magic that the 458 Italia had in my eyes. If you are over 50 and looking to move up from the 458 into something else, that you can really fall in love with, I think probably the 812 Superfast is it. Either that or be smart and don't part with your 458 Italia just yet.

Ray
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I test drove a 488 Spider. Not a fan of it. I agree with you on the 812 Superfast/F12 part. Great cruiser and would be a great replacement but as you point out, the F12 and 812 are geared as kind of a supercar/GT cruiser for the elderly (no offense), I'm 23; I don't need a GT cruiser or something easy on the back just yet! Did you replace the 488 yet?

RayJohns · Feb 3, 2019

iloveferrari said: ↑

I agreed with 99.8% of what you said, except a small caveat. The color of 812... In certain colors, it really does not look good.... Like in yellow the nose is like a dolphin, but in grey color, it looks great. I think I still like the look of F12 better.
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I agree. It looks best in something like CDF or some of the darker colors.

Ray

RayJohns · Feb 3, 2019

arkone said: ↑

Did you replace the 488 yet?
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I did... with a 1990 Toyota pickup. The 22RE is a fun motor to work on!

Ray

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