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Its been a while... lets talk about timing belt changes

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by xplodee, Mar 16, 2019.

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  1. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    They went back to 5 on the V12. There was no certainty from Ferrari if the change to 3 ever applied to the Flat 12. Those intervals have been set by different distributors around the world. USA and Europe have several differences.
     
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  2. rovexienus

    rovexienus Formula Junior
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    In December 2017 I asked the question about the belt replacement schedule on my 512BBi to the Ferrari concession next to my place, the answer (translated from French):

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    The timing belt replacement for your BB512i should be done every 3 years or 50000 km.
    The factory has standardized the periodicity for all models to 3 years or 50000 km, except the 612 every 5 years or 50000 km.
    UNQUOTE
     
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  3. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    And Ferrari of North America has set a different standard. I have the service bulletins.

    This is one of the reasons timing belt threads are a cluster ****. I should have ignored it.
     
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  4. MOSS

    MOSS Formula 3

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    Don't we have about a hundred of these threads? Just like you say, its 5 years or 30k miles. That is the rule I have always used on all mine and it works great.
    If you want to do it in 3 because of some special conditions, then by all means spend your money. I will stick with Brian's advice.
     
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  5. rovexienus

    rovexienus Formula Junior
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    The good news is that there seems to be an agreement on the 30k miles or 50k kilometers limit:)
     
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  6. xplodee

    xplodee Formula 3

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    Well to put a bow on this, I'm just going to have Bradan come and get the car and do the major and diff install. Sure I'll be out nearly $15k but at least I'll have a car back that's ready to romp on and a receipt to show for it. I'll use the lift for all other services moving forward, and for detailing.
     
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  7. MOSS

    MOSS Formula 3

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    Are you going to use a Newman diff? Out of 4 cars with one being a turbo, I have never had a diff issue but his is good.
     
  8. xplodee

    xplodee Formula 3

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    I believe Bradan uses the Modena Engineering diff from Australia.
     
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  9. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Wise decision!


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  10. MOSS

    MOSS Formula 3

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    Just saw a picture on their site. Man that looks great. Very high quality. Newmans is 3500, what does the Modena run?
     
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  11. xplodee

    xplodee Formula 3

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    $2990
     
  12. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Pretty cheap! But then grand tour sait it cost 26k pounds to fix lol At the dealer for sure but the TRis not that expensive to fix (relatively speaking)


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  13. turbo-joe

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    when I remember right with freight, custom and tax not even 1.800 euro each, but this has been about 8-10 years ago.
    next diff I would need I will buy from philwozza
     
  14. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Really? I am the exclusive US distributor for Modena Engineering Ferrari parts. That would not be the price.

    The Modena differential is complete with side gears, spider gears and all positraction parts. The posi is offered in 2 different levels of lockup but I discourage buying the more aggressive set up.

    Pauls is a very good part but is a bare housing.

    I would have to check the current exchange rate but it is over $4000 US + shipping from Texas.
     
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  15. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Still pretty darn cheap!


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  16. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I think it is a good value. If you have the unfortunate experience of breaking one in a fashion that damages the spider and side gears it suddenly becomes even more attractive.
     
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  17. xplodee

    xplodee Formula 3

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    IT is $2990 for the Modena diff housing from GT Car Parts. My diff hasn't exploded so i'll just be swapping the old parts into the new housing.

    https://gtcp.com/portfolio/modena-engineering-limited-slip-differentials-for-boxer-and-testarossa/

    Not sure if you supply to GT Car Parts or if they buy directly but that's what it is. I know nothing of the supply chain on this item.
     
  18. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Must be very old stock. No longer in the loop and it is a very old price. Probably should check and be sure they even have it. More than that I cannot say.

    If they actually have one I'd buy it.
     
  19. V4NG0

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    If I had a nickel for every time I ordered a part listed online, only to get an email/call the next day explaining that the part was not available and hasn't been for some time...
     
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  20. MOSS

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    I got an email back from Frank at Modena this morning and the price was 3500 + 210 shipped to Dallas, Texas so I guess it went up. I wonder if that includes internal spider gears and ready to go? I did not think to ask.
     
  21. turbo-joe

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    when I got mine all they have been complete, without the outside bearings of course, but as I see the price only raised about 15 % since more than 10 years ago. I think those 3500 are australian dollar an dnot US dollar? then this would be about 2100 euro plus shipping.
    when you have contact again with frank tell him a nice hello from me
     
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  22. MOSS

    MOSS Formula 3

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    Yea, it has to be purchased by a shop like Brian's or a retailer. They will not sell to the public.
     
  23. ago car nut

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    Newman's diff is good, Just put your internals inside!
     
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  24. MOSS

    MOSS Formula 3

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    Does someone have a good photo of Newman's piece? Man, the Modena piece looks like art.
     
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