FORMULA 1 EMIRATES GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2019: RACE ▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▀▄▀▄

Okay, so will Mercedes win ALL the F1 races this year, like McLaren almost did in 1988? If not, who will beat them?

 

Pretty sure it was over at the end of last season as nothing has improved for Ferrari since 1st part of last year.

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Monaco, as I posted ,is not a place RedBull can count on for a win - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/143363/mercedes-superior-in-all-corner-types--verstappen
Mercedes superior to Red Bull F1 car in all corners - Verstappen

Max Verstappen believes Red Bull's car is "not really better in any corner than Mercedes" after his team's Formula 1 rival's fifth consecutive one-two in the Spanish Grand Prix.


Verstappen scored his second podium of the season at Barcelona after overhauling both Ferraris, but could not challenge the Mercedes of Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas.

Despite Red Bull's traditional chassis and aerodynamic prowess, Verstappen believes Mercedes' 2019 car is simply better at the moment.

"We're not really better in any corner than Mercedes," he said.

"It's good, it's not that it's a bad car! But at the moment the Mercedes is just quicker than us everywhere.

"Medium-speed, high-speed is pretty similar but that depends a lot on the downforce levels you're running every single weekend so it's a bit difficult to say.

"On this track, they were very strong in the low-speed corners.

"And that is normally pretty good for Monaco [the next race] as well."

Mercedes' advantage at Barcelona was at its biggest in the slower final sector.

 

You can't be that cynical... he's known as the best F1 driver since Senna, Burger said even it himself. Also, in the 4 years he's absolutely mistake free where Vettel makes a mistake almost every race. If Hamilton comes to Ferrari so does the WDC and probably in his first year, you can quote me on that.

 

As stated earlier this year by the press and other noted F1 personnel on design - Ferrari have a basic and inherent problem in design of the car overall as a potential - https://www.bbc.com/sport/48248600

Could it be a conceptual problem for Ferrari?
Why is the Mercedes so strong, and why have Ferrari struggled so much? The answer could be in the concept of their cars.

As BBC Sport's secret aerodynamicist explained at the start of the year, Mercedes and Ferrari have taken a different approach to their front-wing design and subsequent airflow around the car.

His article said before the season that Ferrari's approach - which is about aerodynamic consistency rather than maximum downforce - could lead them down a development cul-de-sac and restrict their car's potential.

As one of Ferrari's fundamental problems compared to Mercedes seems to be a lack of downforce, this is a growing discussion point in the paddock.

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The way Mercedes designed their car could enable them to develop it more efficiently
Wolff said: "It is definitely an interesting thought because when you see who was in front in winter testing it is different from the ones who were in front today.

"It was two different aerodynamic concepts. Maybe there is a certain truth in it. But there is never one question and one answer in F1 or silver bullet that justified good or bad performance, we have to develop the car and try to add performance from weekend to weekend.

"We felt with the front wing concept we followed there is more potential long-term maybe with the risk of a short-term struggle."

If this is the case, it is potentially terminal for Ferrari's hopes this year, because to change it they would have to alter the entire aerodynamic philosophy of their car. Which is almost impossible to do during a season.

Binotto even hinted at this after the race on Sunday. "It is a matter of downforce, of balance, of maybe even car concept," he said on the subject of their shortfall. "We do not have the answer."

 

"We do not have the answer."

Well that's inspiring.

 

They have an answer - admitting what it takes is the part that is scary to admit lol

 

Do you think they have to lessen the degree of rake in the chassis, like Mercedes has? Because the high rake chassis may be the reason the Ferrari sucks on the slow speed corners.

That would be a huge adjustment to make vis-a-vis the aero.

 

more than 6 minutes as a recap? Could have been done in 2 as well......

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Oscar

 

3rd team not bad enough for them apparently.

 

I imagine lots of slo-mos

 

The good news is Binotto says they have seen something in the data that could explain this. The bad news, they don’t have an answer to the problem.

“Right now we are losing a lot in each corner, not only in the last sector,” he said. “In each single corner we are slow with quite a lot of understeer.

“It’s not only downforce, it’s more than that, it’s something which we need really to analyses and understand.

“Any early conclusion today will be a wrong conclusion.

“It will take some days to really have a proper analysis and try to understand.

“It’s a matter of balance, a matter of downforce, it’s a matter of maybe even car concept. I think [while] we do not have the answer, I would like not to go through it.”

 

I went back to look at pre season testing times and found something interesting:

That's pretty much how the race was, seems like Merc were just sandbagging

 

Mercedes and elton

 

That wasn't a mistake, that was the only shot they had of a good result. If he gets by one or both of the mercs, they have a shot, if not they finish at best 3rd. I'd rather him take the shot.

They could have beaten max if they were quicker with the calls to pass, especially the 2nd one, Vettel was a second a lap faster once he got by Charles but they left him behind for 7 or 8 laps. That's nearly the whole gap to verstappen plus damage to his tires. I'm not sure wtf Ferrari is doing, they need to make those calls a lot faster especially when the cars are diverged on strategy and tires.

 

The SKY broadcasters are doing a better job with race strategy and knowing what is going on compared to the Ferrari team, maybe Ferrari should hire them....

 

Sadly I don't, would make life a lot easier!

 

I'd imagine that, at some point, they'll take each other out.

 

relax guys, soone ror later will getem..but of course, that's not much of a consolation...-at this point i think everyone (except elton fanboys) just wants to press fforward till the end of this farse and the worst era in f.1, just end this nightmare already and let's start with real races again....

 

Not sure about garde though. Williams dominated outrageously In the 90’s so did McLaren, and Ferrari in the early 2000’s. We just need a more competitive F1 that’s about it. It hasn’t been fun to watch for 10
Years or so now.


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Renault the new Honda?? Current component allocation after the SpanishGP.

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We were 1sec behind...end of S2 into.S3(corners) killed us. Qualifying was telling and was a precursor of how the race would go.

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+1

 

Yap, but in those years at least the drivers were better and earned their wins...not this crap we have now....since 2008 f.1 has been a pain to watch....