Thinking of going from 488 to Pista

If you don’t have an allocation- look to the used market. You won’t get a new one.

 

it may hold its value, but this is the first time you have the same car done 4 times - 488/pista/f8/stradale

 

Don’t hold your breath


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Not that impressed with my 488. Pista looks fantastic, but the engine, even with higher output, does not work for me.

 

I went from 2017 and 2019 488’s to pista and so curious how you can say that. Pista is in its own category, especially the engine. Not sure what your frame of reference is or what you are comparing it to but it’s the best thing I’ve ever driven. In fact, it was just awarded engine of the year by the Engine Technology International organisation. Read below, sit back, enjoy a 1947 cheval blanc, think hard before you speak and do tell, what’s it gonna take? I guess some folks are just hard to please.

NEWS
Ferrari dominates Engine of the Year awards yet again
Pista's high-revving V8 scoops title for unprecedented fourth consecutive year

30 May 2019 - 08:13BY MICHAEL TAYLOR
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Four wins on the trot for Ferrari 488 Pista engine.
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Almost inconceivably, the twin-turbocharged, 3.9l Ferrari V8 nestled behind drivers of the 488 GTB and the 488 Pista has won the Engine + Powertrain of the Year award yet again.

In the face of the addition of the “Powertrain” part that opened the door to electric cars, the high-revving Ferrari motor owned the award for the fourth straight year.

No other engine has ever won four straight titles before, and it had to overcome the 3.8l Porsche turbo motor, the McLaren 4.0l twin-turbo V8, the 6.5l naturally aspirated Ferrari V12 and even Tesla’s electric powertrain to win the Over 478kW category.

It left the award’s co-chair, Dean Slavnich, shaking his head at the supercar engine’s dominance of its class and all other engines.

“Since its launch in 2016 the Ferrari V8 engine remains undefeated at the International Engine + Powertrain of the Year Awards, winning 14 trophies over three years,” Slavnich said.

“And now it has won the overall award four years straight, cementing its place in the history books. I very much doubt such an achievement will ever be matched again.”

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The award-winning 3.9l V8 engine is mid-mounted and sits behind drivers of the Ferrari 488.
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Stradale has nothing to do with the other three.

 

Its the same body so not sure how u can say that


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Who knows.

The important question is. Can you live without the glovebox and the smaller boot during all the nice long drives a Pista can offer?

Considering the fact that neither the Pista nor Pista Spider are limited production cars - and the fact there here in Europe it seems like allocations are pretty easy to come by, my guess is that there will be a pretty significant production run.

It might be different in the US as there's the crazy allocation game FNA likes to play.

 

Incorrect facts throughout your post.

 

Not same at all.......may I suggest you do some research and understand the differences before posting.

 

Really? Please explain.

 

Both Pista and Pista Spider are limited production run cars........good luck with a straight simple allocation now on either........anywhere.

 

I believe that engine of the year also applies to the 488 GTB version of the 3.9 twin turbo. I just am not impressed with the lower rpm limit, sound, shifting characteristics of the 488 relative to my 458. I passed on the Pista and have an 812 due by the end of the summer.

 

Who told you they were limited?

I talked to one of the guys at the local dealership in the Copenhagen area on Monday three weeks ago, about the Pista allocations, number of orders etc.

He was very specific about the Pista, like the Speciale, were not limited by a set number of cars. But unlike the Speciale Aperta which were a limited run, this time, the Pista Spider is not a limited model either. A close friend and family member that has a Pista Spider on order, has been told the exact same thing, both from our local dealer and when he was in Maranello speccing his Pista.

Add to that our dealer currently has at least seven Pistas in storage for customers with more coming, not counting Spiders and what's already on the road here.. Four or five of these cars i saw that Monday, are Pista Piloti cars to boot. If the guys at this dealership tell me they are not limited, just like the Speciale was not. I believe them, because they certainly seem to have the sales numbers to back it up. I also witnessed a guy that came in Thursday last week to purchase his first Ferrari. He expressed interest in the Pista and he was told it was possible. I don't know the outcome of that as I was going for a test drive during their conversation. In case you wonder what dealer I'm referring to, it's Formula Automobile, Lyngby in Denmark.

Not trying to start a fight here in any way shape or form. Just saying that from what I've been told and from where I sit, it definitely does not look like a very limited run like the Speciale Aperta or 16M.

 

There is a difference between Limited Edition and Limited Run Production. Anyways you are probably correct as you seem very well informed and entrenched in Ferrari world, what do I know.

 

From a resale standpoint, may not be the best move, though the 812 is certainly wonderful

 

This is correct. Its a limited production run, not a limited car, aka numbered car. You cannot get an allocation in the US. They are not available. EU might be a different market bbut in the US at least, its a fairly rare car relatively speaking.

 

Silly question but why not go from your 488 to an F8? A friend of mine was looking for a Pista Spider and found no allocations but could get an F8 allocation immediately.

 

I intend on keeping the 458 and 488. They're both awesome cars in their own way, I ordered the 488 to my spec and it's gorgeous. Now, how about that 1947 Cheval Blanc!

Best

 

I think the tributo is the car to get. Love the lines and details. All the other cars in the similar families just don’t do it for me.

Robb

 

I think this is what I was trying to convey in my initial post. Yes, the US is completely different from the EU market, hence my reference to the allocation and be-on-the-list game FNA and North American dealers has been playing for years.

The UK is from what I understand, somewhere in between the US and Europe, due to the fact that the cars are right hand drive models. It's not so much the dealers restricting the potential customers just to keep numbers down or sell used cars etc. It's more a question of Ferrari simply producing fewer RHD models, which naturally creates a situation where allocations are harder to come by. This of course means that allocations are offered to certain clients first.

But generally, for cars that are not of limited numbers, here in mainland Europe, it's easier to get allocations than the UK and US.

Not sure what defines a limited run, as all production runs are naturally limited. They started the Pista production in 2018, and I guess it will and when the SF90 start production. How does this make it a limited run compared to a "normal" production run between two set dates?
To me, a limited run is A a set number of cars, or B, a car that is only available in conjunction with another purchase or for certain customers with a specific ownership history.
From what I can tell here in Europe at least, that's seems not to be the case.

I'm by no means the most well informed here, I know nads is usually pretty well informed. I've been here on FChat in the past, so I do know a few of the members here.

As I said, I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just sharing the info I have and how it looks from where I stand.

If I came across in a wrong way, I apologize, as it was not my intention to offend anyone.

 

Didn’t you and a couple of more in this forum get the allocations fairly recently?
Could’t the same happen to the OP?


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Got mine about 2 months ago...more coming?? Maybe but doubtful.