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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by 134282, Jul 23, 2009.

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  1. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Terry, this is great stuff...! As always, you come through with great information, thank you very much.
     
  2. miketuason

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    How strange, yes the assembly number is 40, VIN is 49455, and production date is 12/83
    Do you have anymore info for my car? Thanks.

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  3. 134282

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    Mike, thanks for the details. I only had the assembly number on your car - mentioned in the assembly number thread in June of last year. Didn't find it before because I'd misspelled your name. :) I don't have any history on the car.
     
  4. miketuason

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    Good enough thanks carbon:)
     
  5. Wade

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    That's the one, though it's the first I've heard about the Prince. I bought the car from Mike Rickey of Atlanta last February and he never mentioned it. Maybe it was the previous owner to him; does the name Tim Casper ring a bell? If you hear anything please let me know since I'm trying to trace the car's history.

    Thanks
     
  6. 134282

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    No, Mike, thank you. Now I just need to figure out the engine number of the Testarossa whose engine number, hitherto, I had identical to yours.

    Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on this subject than I can chime in, but the VIN is for the Middle East market and there's Arabic-looking script on the data plate. That lends credibility to the Prince theory. Tim Casper doesn't ring any bells, nor does Rickey. But I'm gonna send you a PM with what I know.
     
  7. Steve Magnusson

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    AFAIK, the engine SNs are not unique, and they start the sequence over for each engine family.
     
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    When did that stop...? As far as I know, Ferrari doesn't do that anymore, and engine numbers run singularly across all model ranges like serial numbers.
     
  9. Steve Magnusson

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    I'll take your word for it that it has, but, since my ex-'78 308GTS F106AE engine was SN 00455, I have to conclude that they weren't unique then (i.e., they made way more F106A engines than 455 before 1978) -- but I've no information on when a unique system was implemented.
     
  10. tazandjan

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    Steve- The F133 series of engines cover the 550, Barchetta, 575M, 575 SA, and 612. For the Maranellos and Barchettas, around 10,000 were built, but 575M engine numbers reach into the 9X,XXX range for cars with SNs in the 14X,XXX range. Somewhere along the line, a system was adopted like that of the VIN/SN where engines were assigned sequential numbers. More research required to tell exactly when.

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    Always right, as always...

    I have 140946 with 92119 and 141041 with 91304. I also have 142549 (Superamerica) with 94899, 143309 with 96703, 143940 with 98618, and 144225 with 98820.
     
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    Carbon- Do you know exactly when Ferrari started using both even and odd serial numbers for the street cars rather than just odd serial numbers? Might help us figure when they went to sequential engine numbers.

    Interesting on the 550 Maranello and Barchetta. All the tech data (2 OMs and a WSM) says engine type F133, but looks like it is actually F133A. What is stamped on the engine?

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    Terry...

    S/N 75000 is the first even-numbered serial number to be (purposely) assigned to a Ferrari road car, which was around 1988. According to our very own Brian Crall, 75000 is a white Testarossa.
     
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    Carbon- One more piece of information. The 612 OTO has engine type F133H. Have not been able to track down the differences in the 612's F133F and the F133H. There were substantial differences between the 575M's F133E and the Superamerica's F133G, covered in the 575 Serial Number vs Assembly Number thread. Maybe something similar for the F133H (shaved block for higher compression, different cam timing, different angle for valve seats, etc). The 2009 612 OM has no useful info on the changes except the engine type. Everything else was copied verbatim from the earlier 612 OM.

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    I know this an a very old thread, but thought I'd update it.
    We just got in a 1989 128 mile(!) time-capsule 328 GTS here at Symbolic. It is near impossible to get a clear/full photo of the engine # pad, but I was able to shine a flash light in there and see the numbers/letters clearly.

    Build Date: March 1989
    Engine #: 10356
    Engine Family: F105 C040
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    #42 bertrand328, Jul 24, 2019
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    Interesting because type F105C040 is that one of the US 328 but number #10356 is a mystery.

    Ferrari 328 received engine number 10xxx from S/N 755xx. Then following S/N received engines witn number 11xxx, 12xxx until engine N°17xxx for cars with VIN 804xx.
    But some 328 with VIN from #805xx for US and Euro market ( not Australia ! ) have engine number 10xxx like this one.
    Why ??? Some here know other 1989 328 engine number ?
     
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    Brent, can you tell us the serial number of this 328? The engine number, 10356, doesn't jive with the year, 1989. By late '88/early '89, 328 GTS 79938 has engine number 16382; and by March, 1989, 328 GTS engine numbers were in the 17xxx range (80948 has engine number 17047, 80987 has 17250, 81029 has 17262, 81063 has 17309).
     
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    Carbon, this car is #80610 and as I mention in my previous post several car wit VIN number #805xx have engine number #10xxx like nerofer 328.
     
  20. Bthesixthree

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    Yes, the VIN/Serial # is: ZFFXA20A1K0080610
     

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