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i have Ferrari fever, can i get advice about buying Ferrari for the first time?

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  1. pelo911

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    and after that i also wrote maybe i need more time with this car
    i compare it back to back with 458 italia
    i need also to come to test drive more "open minded"
    i know i always don't like big and heavy cars (that's why i love the 675LT)
    my first car was Clio 172 (i still want to own one someday)
    but for everyday? those cars you can't really enjoy them.

    why i'm saying F12 it's a perfect choice? i guess i mean "on paper"
    because it has amazing engine , more modern then 575 / 599 , dual clutch , etc.
    my friend dad use to have one , he sold it after 2 month because the car have so much power and cannot put it to the ground
    so the car always loosing traction (sound's fun to me LOL)

    i think i need to spend more time with this car
    some car (for me it's the raw crazy cars) you fall in love instantly
    some of them you need time to appreciate
     
  2. paulchua

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    Cool, well I think you have your answer then. Test drive the 550 6speed, the 599 and the F12. Let us know what you decide, as well as your driving notes.

    Best wishes to you!
     
  3. greyboxer

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    How many were imported to USA ?
     
  4. pelo911

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    it was around 18 years ago
    in israel
     
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  5. Themaven

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    A gated 575 (I have one, with the Fiorano Handling Pack) is a very different car to a F12. Much more grand tourer, much less frantic. Less fast, also, obviously, but more satisfying in many ways, depending on how fast you can drive where you are. I felt with the F12 that I was tiptoeing everywhere, and the car isn’t made for that.

    Also 575 is the last Ferrari before the super quick steering racks were fitted, making it less manic.

    But there’s no denying F12 bang for buck, it’s a phenomenal machine with an amazing engine.
     
  6. GTS Bruce

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    For a GT car its hard to beat a 575M. I'm moving on and mine is for sale. Remember it is a GT car not a sports car. Plenty fast but not a twisties car,

    GTS Bruce
     
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    I don’t recall that any Renault’s were imported during that time period? :rolleyes:
     
  8. obbob

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    OP is saying he wants to buy a $150-$250K car. Don't see how that's so suspicious.

    It's not like he's claiming to buy 3-4 Ferrari every month and multiple of every model based off of his successful but ultra secretive watch resale business :p. The latter guy wasn't lying about buying those cars btw...he was just pretending it was all paid for by himself when it was someone else doing so.
     
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  9. Themaven

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    As Paul has pointed out the F12 felt heavy and not nimble enough to the OP, I don’t think the 575 is the car for him. F12 is super nimble for a front engined V12. It’s lighter than a 599 or 575 and much more super-GT. For light and nimble, a 458 would be the choice or a gated 430, though neither is a V12. You can also get a Scuderia in that price range, and while it has the single clutch the OP says he doesn’t like, it’s the best single clutch Ferrari made (Superfast 2).

    With no offence to the OP I think it’s fair to be sceptical about anyone who joins, with no subscription, and provides no details about themselves, not even a name, though that doesn’t mean they aren’t a real purchaser.
     
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  10. pelo911

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    you can search my user name and see many post in Porsche and McLaren forums
    if someone here live in Houston we can meet , he can confirm i'm real.

    458 i always like this car , drove it many times
    but here in Houston it's too common , i feel poor here :)
    you got to every good restaurant and see line of Huracan like it's Toyota.

    button line , Houston have very bad roads (at lease where i live / work)
    i need a car with softer suspensions , as far as i remember the 458 very good on that.
    now i daily drive Macan , i always love this SUV (this is my second one) , small with dual clutch.

    how is the F12 suspension?

    other then F12 , you can think about other model / brand can be good as daily car?


    thanks guys , this is the most "responsible" forum
     
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    Lotus Evora?
     
  12. pelo911

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    can work , lightweight
    and English cars usually offer good ride quality
    maybe because UK roads are bad like Houston roads
    and my wife will like it (most likely)
     
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  13. paulchua

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    I remember watching this review where Clarkson said it felt like sitting on a couch, yet you can track it. Haha
     
  14. pelo911

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    "it’s the best single clutch Ferrari made (Superfast 2)"
    also in the F430? or only Scuderia
     
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    Others, please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe only in the Scud. However, I think the F430 and 612 can be 'flashed' to use the new algorithm (don't quote me on that until others can confirm)
     
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    You answered your own question. Drive them and decide. Simple.
     
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    #67 paulchua, Aug 20, 2019
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    Darius, you make excellent points here. I guess that's why a lot of us are having a bit of a hard time with this thread. The OP provided guidelines which I understand as
    • Ferrari V12
    • 2 Seat
    • Cost < 812
    • Can be a daily driver
    • Not an F12
    I agree with you if he felt the F12 was heavy, the 550/575 599 won't be different. I felt driving the 550 was heavier than the 812.

    It seems the OP is now betraying his love of the Ferrari (the title of this thread) V12 and asked what other makes he should look at.

    You guys can call me Nostradamus now when I called it here.

    @pelo911
    I would do some more research on your own and settle on just a few cars. The reason is your questions is just so broad and wide open that it's tough to give direction. I've given analogies, here are a few more to hopefully explain why this thread is not going smoothly.

    "What is the best painting for me?"
    "What music should I listen to?"
    "How firm should a mattress be, so I like it?"
    "What's the best perfume?"
    "What food is the most delicious?"


    The answer to each of the 5 questions is, "I don't know, what do *you *like?"

    Get out there, test drive a bunch of cars, and report back to us with *specific* questions, I think you'll find a much better response.

    Best wishes to you!
     
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  18. Themaven

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    Of the modern supercars, the McLarens have the best ride quality (650, 720) and great nimbleness and agility and light weight..if that’s a priority..but you already had a LT, so..

    As well as having Superfast 2, the Scuderia was also the first Ferrari with Bumpy Road ride mode, and while it rides ok in that mode, nothing like as smooth as a 488 or 720 or even a F12. If you have broken up blacktop, you don’t need a Scud.
     
  19. Themaven

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    No but the F430, unlike the Scuderia, was also available as a gated manual..
     
  20. IloveGT

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    How can someone help you who to marry?

    Just go ahead to drive them and then you can make up your mind!
     
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  21. dsd

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    Sounds like a 3 Pedal 575 given the heaviness question. Love mine. An F12 is a great value and the market may be a touch soft on the 3 pedal 575-- I'd trade mine for a 250GTE :)
     
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    All front engined Ferrari V 12s are going to feel big and heavy if you are used to Gt3s and 675s. Thats the way it is. I had the same experiane driving a 550 years ago then a 599 more recently.
    The F12 was supposed to "fix" a lot of that.
    Thinking about it , it may be sales talk.
    Its still a massive lump of engine out front. Just no way around that.
    So in a 12 cyl you have a TR in that price range of 200k ish ?
    Going to be slow in comparison to what you are used to. And "old".
    IMO you should be looking at a Scud. Not a 12 but with pipes it comes close to the sound.
    Will be slower than a 675 but the wail will be impressive.
     
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