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458 Rear CCM Rotor Removal

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  1. hgoodwiniii

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    #1 hgoodwiniii, Sep 17, 2019
    Hi all, I need to remove my rear CCM rotor and it seems to be seized on the hub. I know with steel rotors we would just whack them a bit to get them to loosen up. How do I get the CCM rotor to loosen up it without damaging it? Thanks.
     
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    #2 Il Co-Pilota, Sep 17, 2019
    Hmmm. Thinking that as long as it is the hat and not the rotor you wack, I'm thinking it should be okay? Only thing is I believe the hat is aluminium, not iron, so it might not take too hard of a wack.

    What about heating the hat up with a heat gun and see if it will release?
     
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    #3 Il Co-Pilota, Sep 17, 2019
    It's been a while, but aren't there a threaded hole in the hat that lets you screw in a bolt that pushes against the axle flange? Some rotors have this. It's usually a smaller hole like 8-10 mm dia.

    Can you snap a pic of the face of the rotor hat?
     
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    #4 hgoodwiniii, Sep 17, 2019
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    Ok, I send a picture in a couple hours when the sun comes up and I can get better lighting in the garage; Right now I can't get a good shot with flash and the garage door down. Thanks.
     
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    #5 hgoodwiniii, Sep 17, 2019
    Hi II Co-Pilota here is a pic of the rotor. Let me know what you think. Thanks.




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    #6 hgoodwiniii, Sep 17, 2019
    Hi II Co-Pilota, I got it off; I used heat and a few taps around the hat; Thanks.
     
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    #7 Il Co-Pilota, Sep 17, 2019
    You're welcome. Heat solves a lot of things:)

    Did you have to remove the caliper, or did it come off with only the pads out of the caliper?

    Just curious. Are any of the five smaller holes between the wheel mounting bolt holes threaded?
     
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    #8 hgoodwiniii, Sep 18, 2019
    I had to remove the caliper, as well; None of the 5 smaller holes have threads; I am now trying to get the rear hub off; The bearings are shot on the passenger side. I am using a bearing puller I borrowed from the autoparts store; That thing is about to die; I am going to heat the hub in just a bit. Hopefully, it will come unseized.
     
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    #9 Il Co-Pilota, Sep 18, 2019
    Oh boy. Pulling bearings... Probably the thing I loathe the most when working on cars. Yup, heat that thing up and see if that will help. Pulling bearings can be a chore.
     
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    #10 tr328, Sep 18, 2019
    Please let us know how it works out.
     
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    #11 hgoodwiniii, Sep 18, 2019
    The hub is off! I used heat, liquid wrench, a 7 ton bearing removal tool and prayers to get it off. What a pain; LOL: The thing that concerns me is that the bearing removal tool defaced the edge of the axle a bit. I hope that's not a problem. The old bearings proved to be pretty bad once I got the hub off.
     
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    #12 Il Co-Pilota, Sep 18, 2019
    Are they flanged bearings?how bad are the marks?
     
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    #13 hgoodwiniii, Sep 18, 2019
    Well, they are sealed inside the hub so I can't really see them. You have to replace the whole hub/bearing assembly on a 458 Italia. When I spin the spindle on the hub, it sounds like crap with loud rubbing and grinding sounds. These are the same sounds I was hearing when I drove it only louder.
     
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    #14 tickerhound, Sep 19, 2019
    How many miles on car?
     
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    #15 hgoodwiniii, Sep 19, 2019
    right at 25,000
     
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    #16 tickerhound, Sep 21, 2019
    Don't think I'll live that long on my cars!
     
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    Don't think I'll live that long on my cars!
     
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    #18 hgoodwiniii, Sep 21, 2019
    Lol! The hub is on!
     
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    #19 Solid State, Sep 22, 2019
    That's very low mileage for a hub assembly to be replaced. If that's really the expected life its kind of pathetic as you usually have to do both sides when one side goes. What did you pay for the new hub? Congrats on doing the work yourself by the way. Post some pics if you can we would find it interesting.
     
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    #20 hgoodwiniii, Sep 22, 2019
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    I am very surprised the bearings gave out with so few miles on the car; I bought the car used; The previous owner was an amazing person with many Ferraris' under his belt. I got 100,000 plus out of my C4 Corvette before I had to deal with bearings and I was able to just change the bearings without removing the hub or changing the hub. I'm just rolling with the flow. I love having the 458. I paid $2,000 for the hub; I was quoted $3,000 - $4,000 for someone else to do the job. I saved ~$1,000 - $2,000 doing the job myself. The car sounds good now and I'm certainly wondering when the driver's side with go out.
     
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    #21 Solid State, Sep 22, 2019
    Crazy Ferrari parts prices! Goes with the territory though. My experience similar to yours, 100k miles and do both sides. I always wonder what happened to lifetime grease-able bearings. So easy to repack or replace and cost about $16 and no hub replacement. Very sturdy pieces. Sealed bearings are devil spawn.
     
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