150k budget - wtb?

Also, go to Vegas and drive the scud and 458 back to back on their track (is they still have those).

As I said earlier in the thread, for folks with your “want list” the 458 will come off GT-like compared to a scud.

On that topic, there are many many many threads with firsthand feedback comparing scud and 458 and scud and CS. The answer you seek is in those threads or in Las Vegas.

 

I think you missed this one. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/which-car-has-the-best-long-term-potential.607538/

 

Sorry if I came off harsh but I am that guy.

A few points for you to consider.

Cars like Challenges, CS, Scud, 16M, Speciale, Pista....... don't traditionally sell quickly because they only interest a small percentage of Ferrari buyers. The other side of the coin is that they hold their value over time much better than the standard street versions. The best cars that have the best spec, history and least mileage will continue to get top dollar.

These cars change owners often when they are newer. The buyers of these cars often sell when the next model is available. Different buyers and buying cycles than the normal street versions.

I have seat time in 430s, Scuds, 458s, and a Speciale. IMAO the Scud is the fun spot. The 458 seems like a much larger car to ME on the track and street. The 458 and Speciale are much more advanced cars than the 430 platform but they are too refined for me and too large to be sports cars and are closer to GTs.

I think you will also find that the added weight of a 458 over a Scud will make a big difference in the feel of the car.

Like I stated in my earlier posts, get some seat time and buy the car you like the best. There are plenty of guys here with more experience than you can imagine that will be glad to help out getting you into a Ferrari.

One last note. In my experience, $25K will get you through most things on a Porsche. When it comes to Ferraris YMMV.

 

There's a good chance a 150k Scud will end up being a 180k Scud, but a 180k Scud with the depreciation of a 150k Scud.

Imagine the expense of a high milage 150k Scud that more than likely has been tracked. 20k brake job + 8k clutch + 1.5k tyre change. That's why I say a 150k high wear Scud can be ridiculously expensive. Come time to sell, it will still be a high milage Scud and there will be next to no return on that brake and clutch job. That's a big loss if that 150k Scud depreciates another 10-15 within the next two years as the milage builds. A similar 200k low milage Scud that does not need any work for the foreseeable future, might only depreciate 5-7 in the same time. Could of course be more depending on miles put on the car, but there's no doubt that the overall hit on the 150k car probably will be the hardest.

This is also why I like the idea of a 180k 458. No clutch to worry about with overall much better build quality. And it looks like they will plateau around the 160-180 area for some time.

 

Given ur budget (so to speak) u may have to compromise or else u might miss out!


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Amen! Can’t have it all spending 150k


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Can’t believe I argued with u on those classified the other day! U make an awful lot of sense! My bad


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This is a great car that was well bought by a fortunate new owner on FChat.

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/2008-ferrari-f430-scuderia-11k-miles-rosso-scuderia-us-carbon.604679/

Post up some other Scuds that are for sale or recently sold. I still think the $150K Scud isn't happening without stories.

 

Not sure much more will come from this.

 

Why not???


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Sorry. Didn't mean the car or your post. Just kinda seems like the OP has left the building.

 

We can still keep discussing imaginary cherry, low mileage, unraped, Scud prom queens for sale for less than $150K amongst ourselves until he reappears.


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Buy Tony Tag’s Ferrari For 65K


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$185,000!!!!!GET THIRSTY!! THIS SCUDS FOR YOU!!!! 2009 430 SCUD 9200mi MINT!!

MY BROTHER MIKE KEEPS BRINGING US THE HITS!!!

NOT MUCH BEATS DRIVING A FERRARI

Very nice car.

 

599 is the way to go for me Maybe you can check manual transmission 991.2 GT3's

 

Try to find some time to hit a local Ferrari Club event or other Ferrari get together and meet some owners. Talking to people that actually own/owned these cars will fill in a lot of blanks on things like running costs.

Nothing beats seat time.

 

For that amount , imho the best option is a nice driver 458 or a manual F430 if you like manual transmission cars


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I just discovered this thread so for what its worth If you can live with it, the SCUD is an experience to drive truly it is . I took mine out for a drive today and it is easily the best sounding of the cars in my opinion the F1 scud transmission is fantastic, but it is best shifted manually .. Those that suggest a V12 and I have owned several and still own at least one
they are great but if you want a mid engine then you will not be happy with a front engine V12...
bottom line the 458 is great it is much more luxurious then the Scud and since you are a Porsche guy I would compare the Scud to a GT3RS vs the 458 which would more like a 911etc...THe 458 is faster and probably easier to like but I love my Scud ...best of luck no wrong decisions in your choices ...
one more thing if you decide on the SCUD and look at 2008 models make sure it has the USA carbon package which became std in 2009 ,so the 2009 models sell for a little more but an 08 is fine along as it has that carbon package

 

I've been watching that one for awhile.
And its a 2009 with the full carbon package.
Good choice IMO.
Check for "delamination" in the headlights.

An inexpensive one I looked at some time ago had corrosion on the lower engine bay.
Check for corrosion all around.

They mention an aftermarket exhaust. Pics dont really show it well. Make sure its not too loud for your neighborhood.

PS what is supposed to go in the upper bracket in the front trunk ?

 

Spare wheel option

 

II u can get it to 160k it’s only 7/8% of ur price


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Same car.

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/2009-430-scuderia-8-800-miles-grigio-silverstone.532362/

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