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  1. Aircon

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    Tragic #1
     
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  3. Aircon

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    Funny. Biden speeches on CNN and Fox, Trump speeches never shown on CNN just Fox but people tell me CNN is award winning and unbiased.
     
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    I think they didn't need to put any more people to sleep
     
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    You’ve got that completely wrong way round - 35 years ago entry was via academic merit only our universities were heading up the world charts... now they’ve been turned into a “business” and every kiddy gets a prize, not worth the money they’ve spent on it. Excpetion is medicine which the AMA has managed to keep control of.
     
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    Was it not 1974 around that time when Whitlam abolished Uni fees?
     
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    Yes, but prior to that if you couldn't afford the (modest) fees you sat for a Commonwealth scholarship. As Karen said, the smart kids all got a ticket.

    Similarly, Whitlam's other famous idea, medibank, merely replaced an existing system where poor people received free health care.
     
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    [QUOTE="IanB, post: 147458551, member: 35183"

    Similarly, Whitlam's other famous idea, medibank, merely replaced an existing system where poor people received free health care.[/QUOTE]

    Medibank ,gold mine for many GPs ...I know of one Werribee GP that bought himself a new Rolls-Royce Corniche every 2 years sponsored by Medibank during the Whitlam period..
     
  11. Aircon

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    Was he loaded?
     
  12. moretti

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    Well he knew how to quote properly :p
     
  13. Aircon

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    Sigh

    Yeah

    Hasn't learnt a thing
     
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    Oh yes he has ..... it's annoying you and me :p

    One up for him :D
     
  15. Aircon

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    It's not annoying.... It's evidence
     
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    Looks like she just got plastered. Again.
     
  17. kerrari

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    yes and all went well until about the mid 90’s when Howard decided they could turn unis into a ‘business’ and suddenly we had all these fluffy courses and anyone that has the money gets the degree...
     
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    Commonwealth scholarship was for high school (I know because that was how I got to stay in school); university scholarships were far more limited and often tied to working for a government department in exchange. Whitlam’s reforms were the first to allow students to really be free choose what they wanted to study. And because the places were by merit only, the standards soared throughout those years- many like UQ went from provincial to world class over the next 20 years before the rot set in.

    What was the ‘free health care’ that Medibank replaced? As I recall, only Qld had a ‘free’ hospital system (funded by the GoldenCasket)? Oh, and it’s such a disastrous system that any party proposing a rollback would be in the wilderness forever (remember Mediscare. :rolleyes:).
     
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    True, QLD was the only state with free medical back in the 70s ?
     
  20. moretti

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    Actually , here is the "real" story :

     
  21. Aircon

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    Not accurate. Anyone with money could attend University, but money did not and does not buy a degree.
     
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    I got 3 degrees off the internet :p

    Took me less than 10 minutes and I duxed the courses :D
     
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    No, that is not true of the ‘Whitlam’ era - places were limited and were allocated by (in those days in Qld) by your Tertiary Entrance score - if you didn’t have the TE required (and for medicine basically only the max score got a gig) then you couldn’t just ‘buy’ a place as happens now. You don’t think degrees can be bought now? You obviously have no exposure to current university.

    On rereading your post, I agree that people couldn’t ‘buy’ a degree in the old days, because EVERYONE paid , but the mandate of unis was to EDUCATE (not make money) so standards were upheld. That has changed with the ‘business’ model,
     
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    From memory it was 1 in 5 Australians outside of QLD did not have health insurance .....that was fine if you could afford the medical bills -if you were poor different tale.

    No one in a country of our wealth and waste of funds should be restricted from medical care..

    I've been their 1st hand with my illness over the last 13 years apart from a monthly drug ($100 p/a) I paid nothing for my treatment .......which included drugs ,X rays ,day care and around 80 days in a ward at Peter Mac.... oh and one blood drug I had 4 x 1 hour sessions at $4.500 a session. Plus a annual visit /checkup.

    And lost my hair for a year or so ......I was lucky to have a Logan beanie.



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  25. Aircon

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    I don't believe that to be the case.
     

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