812SF being discontinued?

I have heard the same. No more SF’s coming. But there are others here that have better inside tracks than me

 

Production for SF has been stopped beginning of Q4 last year.


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As @phanliu said, production is over since august 2020

 

812SF (coupe) allocations stopped at some point (worldwide) last summer or late spring, it can no longer be ordered.

 

There will be a few SF production in 2021 but all allocations should have been fulfilled.

 

I was just trying to find out why the introduction of the Purosangue takes so long and by coincidence became aware of the fact that the 812 has already been taken out of production in 2020. What seems a bit strange is that Ferrari had the policy during the last decades to renew models after about 5 years and keeping the platform the same for 2 models (e.g., FF - GTC4Lusso, F12 - 812, 458 - 488). The production of the GTC4Lusso and the 812 have been ended in 2020 and moreover, the 812 has only been in production for 3 years, suggesting that it hasn't been the success Ferrari has hoped for. In addition, no (direct) successors have been announced for the GTC4Lusso and the 812 since 2020, which makes you wonder. Combining this info with the delay of the Purosangue it makes me think that changing markets have forced Ferrari to rethink their strategy very recently. I guess that we will not see a 6-liter V12 again in their regular models and that the Purosangue will only be available as a hybrid and maybe in a fully electric version as well (or at least I can imagine that they have decided very lately to make the Purosangue platform suitable for full EV). This could explain the delay. I wonder whether Ferrari will go for smaller V12s in combination with turbo- or supercharging. Remember that their first V12s were 2-liter. Their very first V12 was even 1,5-liter and was combined with a supercharger in their F1 car. We'll see...

 

SF90, who is already on the market since almost two years, is the 812SF replacement. The new Lusso is the Purosangue, that will be introduced this year.

In my opinion the V12 will survive be only on the Icona and hypercars: V6 and V8 hybrid for the others, but let's see what's happen.

Ciao

 

@day355 has already told all of that there is an 812 replacement, F167, in the works. He has already told us the final design has been signed off and the only main question is the exact power plant pending the Euro7 rules being finalized.
I don’t think there is any debate about this, there is an 812 replacement on the way.

 

Day355 does have a lot of insider info, I saw this in person and I can confirm it, so ok there will be a new 812 . This said, I don't believe it will have a V12. I hope it will have a combustion engine (that would be a great achievement, considering what's happening), but the oldest engine is the V12 and in my opinion they cannot afford to develop three different engines: I think only V6 and V8 hybrid on production cars and V12 only on limited production ones, where they can skip the emission rulements due to the very low production numbers.

But I hope to be wrong, as I like the V12.

ciao

 

I find it hard to imagine a scenario where the only way to order a V12 in a regular production model is via the SUV. I therefore expect their next top GT model (F167) will also have a hybrid V12 (6.5L is my guess).

 

If this turns out to be true, then the F167 will be much heavier than the 812 which is already not exactly a lightweight. To make a hybrid feasible it'll have to be mated to a much smaller capacity engine both for weight and packaging reasons. I'm guessing it'll be a much smaller V12 mated to a plug-in hybrid with about 900HP.

 

Any rough idea how many 812 SF’s will be produced?

I plan to pass our example down to the kids.

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I'm not sure where I read this but I believe there were about 5000 Superfasts, 1000 of which are in the USA

 

Ferrari have been working on a 4L V12 with assistance for a few years now. High revving as well.

If they can put it in production is another matter with all the new regs!

 

Interesting that there are only 1000 Superfast's in the US. I hardly ever drive mine and am thinking of selling it while things are hot. I like the 296 and would be interested in the upcoming GTS but it just seems too much money for what it seems to be. My 458 Spider will have to do for now.

 

My GTS is taking the same path

 

The GTS run will go through at least 2022, maybe even 2023 - which makes five years of 812 production.

The 812 is a success by every Ferrari metric.

 

Roughly 2 years pre GPF for the SF. The purest V12, in my opinion. And the reason why mine will never be sold!

 

Agreed. I love my pre-GPF 812 and will probably hold on to it long after m GTS is gone (and the GTS hasn't even arrived LOL)