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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by DM1, Jan 21, 2018.

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  1. Bundy

    Bundy Formula 3

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    State Farm here, as well
     
  2. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Agree, I am currently also with State Farm for all my cars and home. My F40 was in the collector policy.
    I’m wondering if it’s worth moving the Speciale or TDF into the collector/stated value category. Rates will obviously be higher…but the current values have moved considerably.


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  3. ThankfulGuy

    ThankfulGuy Karting

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    This gives me googly feelings in my belly. ❤️
     
  4. GatedMurci

    GatedMurci Rookie

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    The Speciale is truly special. Last of the NA V8 will only go up!

    Why would anyone buy a Pista over this?
     
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  5. obbob

    obbob Formula Junior

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    If there are consistent listings and sales of the car, stated value isn't a huge benefit unless your spec is a complete outlier (i.e. Tailor Made). In the event of a claim, it should be quite clear what the car is worth due to the abundance of public data out there. The Speciale and TDF generally always have public listings and recent sales data to draw from.
     
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  6. Napoli

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    For some, there's room for both. :cool:

    Perhaps, in the minority, but I prefer the Pista all the way. Love a powerful TT.
     
  7. italiafan

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    There is definitely room for both.
     
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  8. Coincid

    Coincid F1 Rookie

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    Autotrader.com- Prices $366K, $395K,$420K, $449K, $465K
     
  9. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    I found a few more on that site
    549,950 (coupe, not Aperta)
    499,800
    459,800
     
  10. Art138

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  11. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    On Autotrader, there are about 10 coupes for sale and most are starting with a $4xx. The 3 in the $3xx are high mileage and one has accident history (Rosso Corsa).
    4 Apertas, black (been there forever), silver Rosso and yellow (higher miles)


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  12. m3doc

    m3doc Karting
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    My mistake.... I missed that post

    Thx
     
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  13. plastique999

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    Anyone purchase one recently ?


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  14. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Recent low mile S sold $560k


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  15. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    Any details of the spec? Was is launch spec? Tailor Made?

    This is the price level 458SA previously occupied, now they are pushed up close the 800K and one listed for over $1M

    What is most interesting is that at this price level so few are listed for sale, seems most owners are holding, don't blame them, nothing replaces the Speciale!
     
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  16. Art138

    Art138 Formula 3
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  17. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
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    Yikes, I may need to adjust the insurance on my recently acquired Speciale, which is a very similar spec to the one in the auction.

    Is the winner here by chance? If so, congrats - amazing car!

    Ruben
     
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  18. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    Sold For $601,458 On 12/16/21

    Where does it go from here???
     
  19. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    Will be interesting if the sale actually goes through. Bidder only has a history of bidding (not winning) a model car collection on BaT. Pcarmarket had a rebuilt title same spec Speciale "sell" for $255k last month only for deal to fall through after I saw it relisted elsewhere this month. Still for sale in same area as this car with $100k in options ($249k, 7k miles). @technom3 had mentioned recently how many of the supposed BaT sales fall through after the fact. Is there a way to verify these?
     
  20. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    If Carfax shows a new title and owner, that could take 2 months or so to show up, but would be proof...that it at least sold
     
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  21. technom3

    technom3 F1 World Champ
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    Are you asking if there is a way to verify if the sale went through?

    If so... Unfortunately not really. You have to have direct knowledge or contact with either buyer or seller. Which I have had SEVERAL.

    Bring a trailer does not care if you get ripped off... They are not liable. They don't care if you are lied to in the ad... They don't care if the sale doesn't go through. It's not their problem. They may elect to do something as a courtesy... Which is run it again for free if you are on the sell side or refund your commission up to 5k. That's it. Otherwise they attempt to hold themselves to zero legal liability.

    They are an advertising service and a go between. That's it.
     
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  22. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    That's a good point. So to try it out and to circle back to this $575k car nearly 4 months later: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2015-ferrari-458-speciale-5/

    Being that I live in FL I know it's easy to look up stuff as it's pretty much all public unlike other states. Running that VIN in the FL title search shows me it's still an active title last issued in 2016 (enter the VIN here) and registration expires in Feb 2023. So that $575k fell through based on that as it hasn't changed hands.

    Today's white car auction was titled here in FL 3/31/2020 and registration expired 3/31/2021 based on that FL govt website. I'll check it in a few months like you suggest (as of course it can take a while to update on FL website).
     
  23. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    Thanks!

    However, I should point out there is another possibility, whomever purchased the car may not title it or may even move it out of the country...if moved to Canada carfax will typically show that happened (and there is a carfax website specific to Canada)

    So, if the person who purchased the car simply took possession but did not title it you will not find that on Carfax...
     
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